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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 6868212" data-attributes="member: 23751">Don't act obtuse.&nbsp; He knows you have to tell the truth, or else he knows that you don't have to tell the truth. Then the RP is nothing more than insanity, and your character never actually knows anything on a failed int check.&nbsp; Heck, it's not even really much RP, since nobody knows that you have the don't have the answer, but think you do, but are keeping a secret.&nbsp; It's all internal.&nbsp; All anyone else knows is that you share info when you succeed, and don't when you fail.&nbsp; Kinda like everyone else.When you fail the save, since you don't know the answer and the caster KNOWS you can't lie, you have to say that you don't know.&nbsp; You can't roleplay a successful save.No, you can't say that at all.&nbsp; There is no patron, so it's not the truth that the patron gave you the info and you can't lie if you fail.&nbsp; Also, the caster knows for a fact that the spell did have influence on you.&nbsp; These pesky mechanics that get in the way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 6868212, member: 23751"] Don't act obtuse. He knows you have to tell the truth, or else he knows that you don't have to tell the truth. Then the RP is nothing more than insanity, and your character never actually knows anything on a failed int check. Heck, it's not even really much RP, since nobody knows that you have the don't have the answer, but think you do, but are keeping a secret. It's all internal. All anyone else knows is that you share info when you succeed, and don't when you fail. Kinda like everyone else. When you fail the save, since you don't know the answer and the caster KNOWS you can't lie, you have to say that you don't know. You can't roleplay a successful save. No, you can't say that at all. There is no patron, so it's not the truth that the patron gave you the info and you can't lie if you fail. Also, the caster knows for a fact that the spell did have influence on you. These pesky mechanics that get in the way. [/QUOTE]

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