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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 6870053" data-attributes="member: 6802951">Or at some point the DM is going to have to step in when Eloelle narrates that her patron controls Bruce's mind and Bruce's player says "No".  I don't think that's too much of an issue: - its been discussed already. I posited that in the case of applying their intelligence in a non-mechanical situation (the example I used was coming up with a plan of attack) the characters would be coming up with plans commensurate with their actual intelligence scores, not their narrated "genius".Of course if the player wouldn't have made an effort to roleplay their character's intelligence level anyway. (Such as in a purely player-skill situation,) its a moot point since the intelligence applied would be the player's level - not the narrated genius, and not the 5 of the actual character.</blockquote>