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<blockquote data-quote="TheCosmicKid" data-source="post: 6870413" data-attributes="member: 6683613"><p>Passive Insight scores, dude. And he has a good shot at telling whether she's crazy or lying, too. Master Bruce does have some experience in the field of abnormal psychology, after all.</p><p></p><p>I wasn't the one who compared Insight to <em>zone of truth</em> to start with.</p><p></p><p>What the hell, man? It is Eloelle's "look at me, I'm too cool for natural language" 5-Int genius character concept that requires the other PCs to give her a pass whenever she lies to them, and you say it's <em>Bruce's</em> choices that are causing problems? <em>Maliciously?</em> Do you honestly have no other mode of dealing with people who don't think or act according to your expectations than to recast them as evil caricatures? This has got to be the third or fourth time I've called you out on this. And your only response is... to incorporate being called out into your caricature. I'm not sure whether that's more Kafkaesque or Helleresque, but it's pretty messed up either way.</p><p></p><p>Hmm... Kafkaesque. Definitely more Kafkaesque.</p><p></p><p>What I hear reading this is the class clown giving a smarmy and blatantly insincere "What did I do? I was just trying to help!" Hamlet was shining a stage-light on the barriers of communication that separate man from man. <em>You</em> are by your own admission "tailgating them with your high beams on". Please don't insult my intelligence by trying to dress up an act of passive-aggressive spite as a literary endeavor.</p><p></p><p>But since you've stated quite clearly that you think it <em>is</em> the case, you seem to be owning that this is indeed a childish way to respond. And if they're <em>not</em> trying to undermine you, and you act out anyway, doesn't that make you even more childish?</p><p></p><p>You're doing a perfectly fine job of that all by yourself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheCosmicKid, post: 6870413, member: 6683613"] Passive Insight scores, dude. And he has a good shot at telling whether she's crazy or lying, too. Master Bruce does have some experience in the field of abnormal psychology, after all. I wasn't the one who compared Insight to [I]zone of truth[/I] to start with. What the hell, man? It is Eloelle's "look at me, I'm too cool for natural language" 5-Int genius character concept that requires the other PCs to give her a pass whenever she lies to them, and you say it's [I]Bruce's[/I] choices that are causing problems? [I]Maliciously?[/I] Do you honestly have no other mode of dealing with people who don't think or act according to your expectations than to recast them as evil caricatures? This has got to be the third or fourth time I've called you out on this. And your only response is... to incorporate being called out into your caricature. I'm not sure whether that's more Kafkaesque or Helleresque, but it's pretty messed up either way. Hmm... Kafkaesque. Definitely more Kafkaesque. What I hear reading this is the class clown giving a smarmy and blatantly insincere "What did I do? I was just trying to help!" Hamlet was shining a stage-light on the barriers of communication that separate man from man. [I]You[/I] are by your own admission "tailgating them with your high beams on". Please don't insult my intelligence by trying to dress up an act of passive-aggressive spite as a literary endeavor. But since you've stated quite clearly that you think it [I]is[/I] the case, you seem to be owning that this is indeed a childish way to respond. And if they're [I]not[/I] trying to undermine you, and you act out anyway, doesn't that make you even more childish? You're doing a perfectly fine job of that all by yourself. [/QUOTE]
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