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Message: <blockquote data-quote="happyhermit" data-source="post: 6870967" data-attributes="member: 6834463">Gaah, it's threads like these with "camps" that made me "quit" the internet for awhile. Anyways, much has been argued about but I have a question and comment.So, what if the question posed to Eloelle was along the lines of "Do you think you know the answer?" What would ZOT or insight say about her answer then? As for all the other stuff, I know it will sound negative but it reminds me very much of things I have seen with certain very young players. They often balked at having any real weakness and would just play off things in other ways. For example, "My character is such a bad-ass, they are super attractive and charismatic, agile, smart and wise. Oh, yeah, they wouldn't do that great on ___ checks if they tried them, but they don't anyways." Now, I am not saying that a system that allows this is not good, I just see very, very little benefit to it. It also doesn't make sense that if the character were simply to step aside from those constraints (such as the wounded character) within the narrative, their stats would suddenly skyrocket or no longer reflect their abilities in any way. For example, if the burly guy with an injury were to suck it up and use the rest of his body to make a strength check, their stats no longer make sense.If the system laid out in the book didn't work as well as it does, then I might see the need to play counter to the definitions of the stats provided, but I still wouldn't see the need to claim that it is RAW, that seems like simply arguing for the sake of argument.The stats are described several times in the PHB;pg12Strength; measures; Natural athleticism, bodily power.Intelligence; measures; Mental acuity, information recall, analytical skillpg 173Strength, measuring physical powerIntelligence, measuring reasoning and memoryIt doesn't say "Intelligence measures how well the PC will perform on intelligence checks" which it very easily could instead of providing those intuitive descriptions.So, frankly, while I see nothing wrong with choosing to treat the abilities differently it is clearly not RAW or RAI in 5e.</blockquote>

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