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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 6871695" data-attributes="member: 23751">A fireball setting things on fire is not RAW.&nbsp; It's simply not written anywhere.&nbsp; The DM has to alter the fireball mechanics in order for that happen.&nbsp; I would allow it, but someone else might not.His examples were all how to narrate the PC's success or failure, not indications that the PC was not the one that saved.&nbsp; A success is narrated as a success, not a failure, and vise versa.No retconning is taking place with mine, either.&nbsp; I am casting a fireball and narrating that the orcs were frozen to death.&nbsp; The end result is the same mechanically.&nbsp; Dead is dead.Assuming you mean game world, I don't see how the patron only existing in the fiction matters.&nbsp; Deities only exist in the fiction and they have the power to make sure PCs make every save if they want.No it isn't.&nbsp; Agility is speed and quickness.&nbsp; Dexterity is precision.&nbsp; High agility would let you throw a darts at a faster rate than I can, but my high dex would make my darts more accurate.&nbsp; Brawny is just brute strength.A point or maybe two, maybe.&nbsp; Dropping from extremely high to extremely low over a few fingers or a hand?&nbsp; Not going to happen unless the DM is horrible.&nbsp; I wouldn't mind seeing a brawny strength 17 hobgoblin dropping to a brawny 15-16 strength hobgoblin over that sort of injury.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 6871695, member: 23751"] A fireball setting things on fire is not RAW. It's simply not written anywhere. The DM has to alter the fireball mechanics in order for that happen. I would allow it, but someone else might not. His examples were all how to narrate the PC's success or failure, not indications that the PC was not the one that saved. A success is narrated as a success, not a failure, and vise versa. No retconning is taking place with mine, either. I am casting a fireball and narrating that the orcs were frozen to death. The end result is the same mechanically. Dead is dead. Assuming you mean game world, I don't see how the patron only existing in the fiction matters. Deities only exist in the fiction and they have the power to make sure PCs make every save if they want. No it isn't. Agility is speed and quickness. Dexterity is precision. High agility would let you throw a darts at a faster rate than I can, but my high dex would make my darts more accurate. Brawny is just brute strength. A point or maybe two, maybe. Dropping from extremely high to extremely low over a few fingers or a hand? Not going to happen unless the DM is horrible. I wouldn't mind seeing a brawny strength 17 hobgoblin dropping to a brawny 15-16 strength hobgoblin over that sort of injury. [/QUOTE]

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