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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 6873451" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>You know what else you don't see in the description that it says it won't do? You don't see it saying it won't change the cloths of every baby in the D&D universe. Nor does it say it won't make me a cheese sandwich while I read this thread. So I guess it does those things by default, just the same as lighting fires.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. Yes, that's true. It is a rule for your house. Now, most DMs would make that call, but I've known a few DMs who will not deviate from what the rules say and since fireball doesn't say it lights it on fire, they would say no.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't recall that. I may have said some people look at it that way, or maybe someone else said it. I certainly don't view it that way. Every RPG I've ever touched has been house ruled to timbuktu. </p><p></p><p>To continue the analogy, BoldItalic and I are reading the "Bible" and saying, "Hey, that was a good story and although it's not true it's a good parable for how we should treat our neighbors." And it seems like you are saying, "No! Every single word is the word of God and is literally, exactly true!"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. That's a large mischaracterization of my position. I have said explicitly that not every sentence is a rule. However, not all rules are mechanical. I have also said that RAW is only what is written. That's a fact. Rules as WRITTEN is what RAW means. Not written = not RAW. That doesn't mean that I don't alter RAW and make house rules, or expect you not do alter RAW and make house rules. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Her lack of knowledge does not allow her to lie. She knows the answer, even if what she knows is wrong, so she cannot lie about the answer she is wrong about. You have her lying, so you are changing mechanics.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>For like the 20th time between myself and others here, nobody is saying that. We are saying that she must tell the truth as she knows it. Since she "knows" the incorrect answer, she must tell the caster the that incorrect answer. She believes it to be truth, so she has no option to give any other answer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 6873451, member: 23751"] You know what else you don't see in the description that it says it won't do? You don't see it saying it won't change the cloths of every baby in the D&D universe. Nor does it say it won't make me a cheese sandwich while I read this thread. So I guess it does those things by default, just the same as lighting fires. Yes. Yes, that's true. It is a rule for your house. Now, most DMs would make that call, but I've known a few DMs who will not deviate from what the rules say and since fireball doesn't say it lights it on fire, they would say no. I don't recall that. I may have said some people look at it that way, or maybe someone else said it. I certainly don't view it that way. Every RPG I've ever touched has been house ruled to timbuktu. To continue the analogy, BoldItalic and I are reading the "Bible" and saying, "Hey, that was a good story and although it's not true it's a good parable for how we should treat our neighbors." And it seems like you are saying, "No! Every single word is the word of God and is literally, exactly true!" No. That's a large mischaracterization of my position. I have said explicitly that not every sentence is a rule. However, not all rules are mechanical. I have also said that RAW is only what is written. That's a fact. Rules as WRITTEN is what RAW means. Not written = not RAW. That doesn't mean that I don't alter RAW and make house rules, or expect you not do alter RAW and make house rules. Her lack of knowledge does not allow her to lie. She knows the answer, even if what she knows is wrong, so she cannot lie about the answer she is wrong about. You have her lying, so you are changing mechanics. For like the 20th time between myself and others here, nobody is saying that. We are saying that she must tell the truth as she knows it. Since she "knows" the incorrect answer, she must tell the caster the that incorrect answer. She believes it to be truth, so she has no option to give any other answer. [/QUOTE]
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