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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 2271448" data-attributes="member: 4937">He may question the validity of my assertion all he wants with my blessings, but that is very different than questioning the veracity of my assertion.Except, I never said that Western's were part of the Fantasy genera.   I said only that Westerns movies were a romantic genera and that the dividing line between the romantic and the fantastic was blurred.   I then pointed out that in some of Clint Eastwoods modern Westerns, that line appeared to me to be very blurred indeed, so much so that if someone wanted to argue that 'High Plains Drifter' was a fantasy movie, I wouldn't strongly object. Likewise, if someone wanted to argue that in Kirosawa's presentation of Seven Samurii, the rifles were in fact magical artifacts with apparantly unlimited range and lethality striking down the heroes as randomly as a lightning bolt, then I'd not argue with that either.   To me its sufficiently of a borderline case, that I don't feel like arguing it one way or the other, since I've already thrown enough fuel on the fires of contriversy.UPDATE: Really, I don't know why I'm being nice about this.  I've just been called a liar by a fellow that seems utterly taken aback by the suggestion that just maybe there might be something supernatural going on in 'High Plains Drifter'.   Why should I continue to give any credibility to anything that he has to say?  If he can't parse out the symbolism and hints of the supernatural in 'High Plains Drifter', why in the world should I think him capable of seeing and intelligently commenting on the symbolism (or lack there of) in Leiber's 'Swords' works?</blockquote>

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