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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 2271999" data-attributes="member: 2205">Just to clarify; it was most likely my head over which they went; that quote was mine, not S'mon's.    <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" />And of the entire sub-genre of "high fantasy" that Tolkien inspired.  In which case, of course, it's difficult to say that that pallette of themes is intrinsic to the genre, if only the first, or the best, of the genre even make an attempt to utilize them, and the rest of the corpus of the genre ignores them completely.You seem to be saying that you can't have simply a high adventure story in which "those themes", whatever they may be that you believe so intrinsic, are not even a part of the work at all.  That's where I fundamentally disagree with you.  Of course, I also disagree with your apparent assertion that even if those themes are not a part of the work at all, well, really, they actually are, the poor authors are just too ignorant to realize that they are unconsciously using Tolkien's same themes after all, if that is indeed what you are saying (it certainly appears to be.)You might say I question the veracity of that assertion.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

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