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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2279636" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>A machine has gears, circuits, levers, etc.</p><p></p><p>AFAIK, a wand does not.</p><p></p><p>A weapon that creates a fireball must deliver the energy in some way...energizing an ion path as a carrier of energy and then supplying fuel along that path... or something.</p><p></p><p>AFAIK, a wand does not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>First: its not irrelevant- even sci-fi Hypertechnology doesn't violate the rules without at least explaining it in some technobabble way of explaining why it doesn't.</p><p></p><p>Magic doesn't even bother to try.</p><p></p><p>Second: Then how do your fireballs avoid this violation? Explain. Do they transfer heat from one space to your target? How?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is indeed a phenomenon that has been observed at the quantum level. However, no one seriously expects this phenomenon to be possible beyond the quantum level. The particles do not increase the energy level, either- they coalesce out of ambient energy- nearly a 1:1 matter/energy conversion. Not an increase (there is still entropy). Those particles also only last for something like 1x-14power seconds before transforming back into energy</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Romulans use microscopic black holes to power their warp engines. Such black holes are theoretical possibilities. Where is the immense gravity well that the mage is manipulating? (This, by the way, would definitionally be science, not magic).</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>A single reactor for the Krell Machine has harnessed "The power of a million exploding suns" and there were many reactors buried within the planet. Heat and light sufficient to vaporize anything except Krell metal (some form of neutronium) was generated by such a reactor.</p><p></p><p>With enough of a difference in charge between 2 physical points, you don't even need a physical connector- energy will leap the distance...like lightning...which is accompanied by other effects.</p><p></p><p>I don't recall any such description of a wand or its effects.</p><p></p><p>And the existence of the wand, even if you accept it as a machine like the Krell Machine, does NOTHING to address any spell cast without one...i.e. any spell cast without a device.</p><p></p><p>Which, might I add, is something almost every mythology/magic system I know of allows.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 2279636, member: 19675"] A machine has gears, circuits, levers, etc. AFAIK, a wand does not. A weapon that creates a fireball must deliver the energy in some way...energizing an ion path as a carrier of energy and then supplying fuel along that path... or something. AFAIK, a wand does not. First: its not irrelevant- even sci-fi Hypertechnology doesn't violate the rules without at least explaining it in some technobabble way of explaining why it doesn't. Magic doesn't even bother to try. Second: Then how do your fireballs avoid this violation? Explain. Do they transfer heat from one space to your target? How? That is indeed a phenomenon that has been observed at the quantum level. However, no one seriously expects this phenomenon to be possible beyond the quantum level. The particles do not increase the energy level, either- they coalesce out of ambient energy- nearly a 1:1 matter/energy conversion. Not an increase (there is still entropy). Those particles also only last for something like 1x-14power seconds before transforming back into energy Romulans use microscopic black holes to power their warp engines. Such black holes are theoretical possibilities. Where is the immense gravity well that the mage is manipulating? (This, by the way, would definitionally be science, not magic). A single reactor for the Krell Machine has harnessed "The power of a million exploding suns" and there were many reactors buried within the planet. Heat and light sufficient to vaporize anything except Krell metal (some form of neutronium) was generated by such a reactor. With enough of a difference in charge between 2 physical points, you don't even need a physical connector- energy will leap the distance...like lightning...which is accompanied by other effects. I don't recall any such description of a wand or its effects. And the existence of the wand, even if you accept it as a machine like the Krell Machine, does NOTHING to address any spell cast without one...i.e. any spell cast without a device. Which, might I add, is something almost every mythology/magic system I know of allows. [/QUOTE]
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