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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2280888" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>The difference is, if the technobabble is a bio-energy equivalent to Farraday's Law of Induction, then we're getting DAMN close to science, and a HELL of a lot less theoretical than extrapolating macroscopic effects from quantum observations.</p><p></p><p>Living bodies DO generate energy fields: Electrical, Heat, etc. Why not have some microbe (Mitichlorians) that convert bio-energy to other usable forms via induction?</p><p></p><p>(For the records, I HATE MITICHLORIANS- mainly because they were added in the new movies and that addition makes no sense in the light of the mysticism of the original films. Characters who should have known of them- Obi-Wan, Yoda- were completly mystical about the Force, when they could have said "Its the bugs in your blood!" In other words: Mitichlorians are BAD WRITING!)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How does one gain that magical sight? Is it inborn? If so, that is a distinction from technology. No one but a select few will ever have <strong>the power</strong>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Those are not "devices" in the strictest, mechanistic sense of the word- they are concepts and symbols. What you have described is the direct manipulation of reality without intervening mechanical devices. The mage is using special knowledge to accentuate his will, and things happen. He speaks, gestures and dances, and reality is radically altered. No levers, no pulleys, no nuclear generators, no nanites.</p><p></p><p>Magic, not technology.</p><p></p><p>In a sci-fi setting, he'd have to subvocalize to his nanotech transmitters, which would relay a signal to a weapon, which would fire at the target. Thought is transmitted to action, seemingly invisibly, but there are all those messy transistors, warheads and chemical reactions, etc. If the weapon is a rocket of some kind, its thrusters push it forward while simultaneously pushing its weapons platform backwards. If its an energy weapon, the weapon has to dissipate heat, recharge, etc. before reuse.</p><p></p><p>Technology, not magic.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Its still a violation. You have no entropy- there should be a net LOSS. At the very least, the Plane of Fire should get <strong>much</strong> colder (in at least one spot)...and piss off the locals!</p><p></p><p>In the real world, there is always a loss of energy when work is done. Here, you use a small amount of energy to get a huge amount on target- you have no magical equivalent to a lever or differential gears to convert low energy effort into massive results.</p><p></p><p>As was pointed out in a recent Scientific American, it takes more energy to produce fuel than we get out of it. We produce fuel because we are converting it from one form to another, more useful form.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 2280888, member: 19675"] The difference is, if the technobabble is a bio-energy equivalent to Farraday's Law of Induction, then we're getting DAMN close to science, and a HELL of a lot less theoretical than extrapolating macroscopic effects from quantum observations. Living bodies DO generate energy fields: Electrical, Heat, etc. Why not have some microbe (Mitichlorians) that convert bio-energy to other usable forms via induction? (For the records, I HATE MITICHLORIANS- mainly because they were added in the new movies and that addition makes no sense in the light of the mysticism of the original films. Characters who should have known of them- Obi-Wan, Yoda- were completly mystical about the Force, when they could have said "Its the bugs in your blood!" In other words: Mitichlorians are BAD WRITING!) How does one gain that magical sight? Is it inborn? If so, that is a distinction from technology. No one but a select few will ever have [B]the power[/B]. Those are not "devices" in the strictest, mechanistic sense of the word- they are concepts and symbols. What you have described is the direct manipulation of reality without intervening mechanical devices. The mage is using special knowledge to accentuate his will, and things happen. He speaks, gestures and dances, and reality is radically altered. No levers, no pulleys, no nuclear generators, no nanites. Magic, not technology. In a sci-fi setting, he'd have to subvocalize to his nanotech transmitters, which would relay a signal to a weapon, which would fire at the target. Thought is transmitted to action, seemingly invisibly, but there are all those messy transistors, warheads and chemical reactions, etc. If the weapon is a rocket of some kind, its thrusters push it forward while simultaneously pushing its weapons platform backwards. If its an energy weapon, the weapon has to dissipate heat, recharge, etc. before reuse. Technology, not magic. Its still a violation. You have no entropy- there should be a net LOSS. At the very least, the Plane of Fire should get [B]much[/B] colder (in at least one spot)...and piss off the locals! In the real world, there is always a loss of energy when work is done. Here, you use a small amount of energy to get a huge amount on target- you have no magical equivalent to a lever or differential gears to convert low energy effort into massive results. As was pointed out in a recent Scientific American, it takes more energy to produce fuel than we get out of it. We produce fuel because we are converting it from one form to another, more useful form. [/QUOTE]
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