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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 9757716" data-attributes="member: 725">I haven't watched Westworld S3 and Arcane yet, so can't say. But what I did see from Arcane while browsing: It didn't look cyberpunk...Of course I watched the old movies like Bladerunner, Johny Menomic (or however the heck you write that!), Robocop, Running Man, Akira, Ghost in the Shell, etc. Certain comics/graphic novels, including the Ghost in the Shell ones. Was a fan of Shadowrun 1e when it came out, I was a fan of 1st/2nd/3rd edition, but they lost me with 4th+. I really liked how they added on fantasy on top of cyberpunk, but for me it always was cyberpunk first, fantasy second. I personally feel that 4e+ (and maybe even certain later stage 3e products) switched that balance around, making it fantasy first and cyberpunk second.The original Ghost in the Shell was great for it's time, but later I preferred Stand Alone Complex over the orignal anime movie, the live action movie was entertaining, but not really what I was looking for. I read Altered Carbon before it became a series, and I also loved the series, I was very disappointed when the stopped after S2. There's lots of anime and novels that touch cyberpunk, but very few that go to the levels of pure cyberpunk.What I'm seeing more with more modern attempts at cyberpunk, including the most recent editions of Shadowrun, they feel less like cyberpunk and more like 'nanorave'. Taking some core concepts, modernize it, but loosing something essential in the process, while creating something new. I have less of an issue with something new, but when companies do this with an existing cyberpunk ip, I find it a LOT less desirable.</blockquote>

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