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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 9757793" data-attributes="member: 725">When playing Shadowrun, between step 1 and 2, there would be an additional step: Getting F-ed over by someone. This often resulted in step 2 either disappearing and step 3 often resulting in getting worse equipment... And the someone wasn't other players!Not yet, but I have it laying around somewhere in pdf (from two Bundles of Holding), will read that later this week. I did browse through it, but like most BORG products it often seems like you're viewing a metal art display, CY_BORG added neon colors to it, so I wasn't exactly sure what I was looking at. It looked cool, but if there was any text the pink neon might have burned out my retinas... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />At what point does evolving become something else entirely? Within art movements art evolved into different streams, baroque didn't become baroque 4, it became impressionism...Having cyberware in your setting doesn't make something cyberpunk, when the punk part is missing. Or when something is punk, but has no cyber, it's something else. Sometimes a part of something is there but has been there for so long, it isn't relevant anymore. Such as cyberware in generic sci-fi, even if there are big nasty corporations. Would you designate The Expanse as cyberpunk, if not what as? Steampunk is something else entirely from cyberpunk. And a guy on a Horse in modern western America with a couple of six-shooters doesn't make a western.</blockquote>

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