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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Visigani" data-source="post: 5554415" data-attributes="member: 6676235">By people of my persuasion you mean people who say 1 spell slot plus 2 spell slots equals 3 spells slots?As for "dueling characters"... that doesn't really determine a characters potency... player strategy is no substitute for character ability. The Cleric class is, without a doubt, one of the most powerful classes in the game.... but said cleric could easily be felled when played by a novice player against a skilled player with a well built rogue.As to whether the Mystic Theurge is a Spellcasting Class or not... First, no one has presented a single RAW passage that says they are not. I'll concede the point as soon as someone does.However, even going by the supposed Rules as Intended (with the above "it doesn't have a spell list, hence it is not a spellcasting class") would suggest that The Suel Arcanamach is a spellcasting class... or even the hexblade is a Spellcasting Class... but the Mystic Theurge, whose only feature IS spellcasting... is not.Fochlucan Lyrist isn't a spellcasting class.Ultimate Magus? Also not a Spellcasting class.The Blighter is a Spellcasting Class, but the Ur-Priest is not a spellcasting class. Why is the Blighter a Spellcasting Class? Because it has a spell list, which the Ur-Priest... which is effectively identical in function to the Blighter (A once devout character turning away from their source of spiritual power).. is not.Sorry, the "Doesn't have a Spell list" doesn't pass the smell test.if the ULTIMATE MAGUS isn't a Spellcasting Class... then we've reached the point of no return on silliness.... especially when you can turn around and say that a Spellthief is.</blockquote>

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