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<blockquote data-quote="ledded" data-source="post: 1853022" data-attributes="member: 12744"><p>Oh, *so* agreed. I don't mind when celebrities speak out on a political issue that they may have some reasonable amount of research or experience with. I don't listen to it, agree with it, nor put up with it in any of my media sources, but hey at least they are executing thier right to free speech properly; I prefer to do actual research myself. It's the dingbats that blather on about a cause that are so detached from reality and anything remotely tangible to the average person that really get on my nerves; personally, some of these guys are darn close to the 'screaming fire in a crowded theater' example of how free speech is *not* guaranteed to you IMO, and there are a few that are in desperate need of the proverbial whack with a clue-by-four. Preferably with a rusty nail in it. </p><p> </p><p>Of course, I'm also of a mind that if someone feels their opinion about an issue swayed just because someone famous spit out a sound bite about it, that's less a problem of the celebrity and more a problem of the person's inability or apathy towards thinking it through. Just my opinion.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Well, I've always felt that people shouldnt talk Religion and Politics in 'polite' situations not because everyone thinks they are right, but because too many people respond to a challenging idea with hostility and hurt feelings. I have plenty of folks I debate these things with that dont get upset when I disagree with them even when they think I'm completely full of it, because they're mature and open enough to be able to entertain my ideas without <em>having</em> to believe in them. But I also believe that the purpose of debate or discussion like that is not to convince another person that you are right, but to bolster or explore the depths of your own understanding/belief on the matter, and to possibly get an informed peek at the other side in the meantime.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Agreed Taky, that was funny, and stated your opinion in an <em>artistic</em> way <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p> </p><p>As far as GGRM is concerned, I honestly could give a rat's patootey what he thinks or says politically. I hate that he's been so delayed with the book, and if this is one of the reasons I care about as much as any other reason he's given. I give him a little less respect just for not being able to show a little personal restraint (and for being such a public freakin' drama queen <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />), but that's not going to lose him any sleep either, because you know what, GRRM doesnt care what some guy on ENWorld thinks about him one blinkin' bit <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />. I just wish he'd finish the book before I completely lose interest in it altogether.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ledded, post: 1853022, member: 12744"] Oh, *so* agreed. I don't mind when celebrities speak out on a political issue that they may have some reasonable amount of research or experience with. I don't listen to it, agree with it, nor put up with it in any of my media sources, but hey at least they are executing thier right to free speech properly; I prefer to do actual research myself. It's the dingbats that blather on about a cause that are so detached from reality and anything remotely tangible to the average person that really get on my nerves; personally, some of these guys are darn close to the 'screaming fire in a crowded theater' example of how free speech is *not* guaranteed to you IMO, and there are a few that are in desperate need of the proverbial whack with a clue-by-four. Preferably with a rusty nail in it. Of course, I'm also of a mind that if someone feels their opinion about an issue swayed just because someone famous spit out a sound bite about it, that's less a problem of the celebrity and more a problem of the person's inability or apathy towards thinking it through. Just my opinion. Well, I've always felt that people shouldnt talk Religion and Politics in 'polite' situations not because everyone thinks they are right, but because too many people respond to a challenging idea with hostility and hurt feelings. I have plenty of folks I debate these things with that dont get upset when I disagree with them even when they think I'm completely full of it, because they're mature and open enough to be able to entertain my ideas without [i]having[/i] to believe in them. But I also believe that the purpose of debate or discussion like that is not to convince another person that you are right, but to bolster or explore the depths of your own understanding/belief on the matter, and to possibly get an informed peek at the other side in the meantime. Agreed Taky, that was funny, and stated your opinion in an [i]artistic[/i] way :D As far as GGRM is concerned, I honestly could give a rat's patootey what he thinks or says politically. I hate that he's been so delayed with the book, and if this is one of the reasons I care about as much as any other reason he's given. I give him a little less respect just for not being able to show a little personal restraint (and for being such a public freakin' drama queen :D), but that's not going to lose him any sleep either, because you know what, GRRM doesnt care what some guy on ENWorld thinks about him one blinkin' bit :D. I just wish he'd finish the book before I completely lose interest in it altogether. [/QUOTE]
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