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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WhatGravitas" data-source="post: 3855897" data-attributes="member: 33132">Huh? Source?As far as I know, the main part of "German culture" was the more like something like a shared German language. The conception of German culture (Goethe, Bach, Mozart, "Land der Dichter und Denker" ("Country of Poets and Thinker")) is a fairly new conception.Note that you only have a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_culture" target="_blank">Culture of German-speaking Europe</a>. The only thing that was culturally unifying, was the shared German language. Note that under that conception, Austria and Switzerland are also part of that shared culture.During the Middle Age, the very fractured sacrum romanum imperium developed from East Francia (which was also called regnum teutonicorum - Realm of the Teutons), which is partially French now. The Germans consist of Frisians, Saxons, Thuringii, Franks, Alamanni, and Bavarii. And I've probably forgotten some.The name "Deutsch" (or "German") comes from Ludwig der Deutsche ("Louis the German"), and his kingdom fell apart after his death into smaller kingdoms. Later, people just used his name to sound more important, to give their claims more gravitas.Even today, a Frisian is very different (in local dialect, as well as culture) from a Bavarian, or a Saxon. And I've seen my fair share of local culture - my father is from Bavaria, and I lived in Hesse, Bavaria, and Northrhine-Westphalia.Just look at the word "German" itself: In Germany, we call ourselves "Deutsche", which stems from diutisc - "Folk". French call us "Allemands" - the origin are the Alamanni. And English call us "Germans", from germanus. If even other languages cannot pin that culture down to a common denominator... well, you get my gist.The label "German" is floating through history - but is has changed its precise meaning and translation fairly often. And the same region was re-named.And sorry for being that verbose and stubborn - but doing all that stuff in history for years... tends to burn into your mind.EDIT: And I think I'll drop it from now on, because it's probably derailing the thread far too much.About Keefe - I think it is. "Das Schwarze Auge" (literally: "The Black Eye") is quite popular in Germany. Though it's also a cheap, unplayable D&D rip-off in German! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />(Tongue-in-cheek! I just cannot touch it without getting the urge to destroy the books. I cannot stand it... and prefer D&D by so much more for fantasy - despite the flawed German translations of D&D)Cheers, LT.</blockquote>

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