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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 3856663" data-attributes="member: 710">But I know other (including myself) German players that dislike DSA. But I have heard the newest edition (4th) has become a lot better. I didn't play a lot of DSA, but the old 3-d20 rolls for a skill check system and the Weapon Comparison Factors were a PITA. The setting is interesting and I guess well done, because it offers a lot of variety and an interesting history. But some adventures (while interesting to play) suffer a bit from the fact that they seemed aimed at young, easily impressed players, not as hardcore role players with D&D, Shadowrun and Torg experience. I liked to say: "Oh, DSA. Dann lass uns mal den Weichspüler rausholen..." (feel free to translate this phrase yourself <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> "Unfortunately, I can't really add much to the topic at hand.DSA is certainly a good resource, but it's not entirely German-Themed.Warhammer's Empire is definitely German-Themed (though sometimes it sounds funny for German speakers. Calling a street "Schwangergasse" (Pregnant Street) and things like that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I think the Wikipedia links on the topics should provide a good start. It's probably not as if you need a 100% historically accurate description of Germany for a RPG setting.</blockquote>

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