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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovarwa" data-source="post: 7102623" data-attributes="member: 75153">Hi,Level adjustments don't balance, except in the most trivial cases, which gestalt is not.  Either everyone gestalts or no one.Similar to the original gestalt from 3.x, the rules should be simple and easy to apply, even if some combinations mesh better than others.Here goes:Whenever you advance a character level, choose one class and follow the standard multiclass rules for advancing a level in that class.  At first level, follow the standard rules for creating a first level character.Then choose a second class different from the class you just advanced.  Follow the standard multiclass rules for advancing a level in that class, except that you do not gain any hit points.  (Optional:  Gain the hit points too.  Optional:  Get the full money or gear of both classes at first level.)And... that's it.* Yes, Warlock combines very well with full-casters.  So do other classes that don't have normal spellcasting.* Yes, you do get lots of ASIs.* Yes, a level 10 gestalt that involves only full-casting classes has as many spell slots as a non-gestalt level 20 full-caster.  No, the spells per day chart is not extended past level 20.  This trait is desirable, not a bad side effect.* Yes, an EK20/AT20 has the spell slots of a 12th level full-caster.  (Per multiclass rules, both class levels round *down* when calculating spell slots.)  He also has 13 ASIs.* Yes, it very much makes a difference which class you pick first, especially at first level.* No, the multi-class rules do not change.  No such thing as double proficiency.  If both of your classes provide a Second Attack, you don't get a third attack.  You cannot take more than one subclass of a given class.  Etc.* No, a gestalt Warlock10/Bard10 does not cast cantrips as a 20th level caster.  A gestalt character is considered to have a character level equal to half of his total class levels.D&D5 has very few features based on character level, and does not have prestige classes, so it is easy to get reasonable results tweaking the standard multi-class rules.Anyway,Ken</blockquote>

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