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<blockquote data-quote="Binho" data-source="post: 5761238" data-attributes="member: 6674967"><p>Hi everyone.</p><p>I was making a gestalt build and encountered some doubts, especially about prestige classes. This three points are the main issue:</p><p></p><p>1- Prestige class</p><p>I couldn't understand the form that PrCs influence the saves and attack bonus. I know that I can't fuse two PrCs so I would apreciate some exemple:</p><p>Level 1: Monk/Sorcerer»Base Attack +0, Fort+2,Ref+2,Will+2</p><p>Level 2: Monk/Sorcerer»Base Attack +1, Fort+3,Ref+3,Will+3</p><p>Level 3: Monk/Sorcerer»Base Attack +2, Fort+3,Ref+3,Will+3</p><p>Level 4: Monk/Sorcerer»Base Attack +3, Fort+4,Ref+4,Will+4</p><p>Level 5: Monk/Sorcerer»Base Attack +3, Fort+4,Ref+4,Will+4</p><p>Level 6: Monk/Sorcerer»Base Attack +4, Fort+5,Ref+5,Will+5</p><p>Level 7: Sorcerer7/Swiftblade1» Base Attack +5, ... *HERE COMES THE DOUBT» ????</p><p>Level 8: Sorcerer8/Cloistered Cleric1»*HERE COMES ANOTHER DOUBT</p><p></p><p>The sorcerer lv 7 gains +0 in all saves and Swiftblade 1 gains Fort +0, Ref+2, Will+2. That's the right interpretation?</p><p>Or the correct interpretation would be: sorcerer Lv7 has Fort+2, Ref+2, Will+5 that is better than the saves from Swiftblade, so no saves would be affected for a level up 6-7</p><p></p><p>The second * is for a doubt about Base Attack Bonus: both sorcerer and cloistered cleric have weak BAB, but if I take an even-level of sorcerer I get +1 of BAB?</p><p></p><p>2-Multiclass penalty</p><p>The rules don't mention if the rules of XP penalty for multiclassing are mantained. It's still applied to gestalt? If so, how would that work?</p><p></p><p>3-Combo Feats</p><p>I know that prestige classes that combine two or more classes are not allowed, but, by RAW, feats like Ascetic Mage are still allowed. That is a necessary feat to reduce MAD problems.</p><p>Let's say the DM allowed this feat, how would it work in a gestalt build like sorcerer 10/Cloistered cleric 1//monk 6/Fighter 2/Paladin3? </p><p>It would have an unarmed damage of a monk lv6 (equal monk class lv), lv10 (equal sorc class lv), lv11 (equal to monk+sorc, limited to HD) or lv16(everybody goes wild!!!)?</p><p></p><p></p><p>I would really apreciate if someone shows a complete build gestalt showing saves, BAB and multiclass PrC. Or maybe some site that explain this deeply.</p><p>Thanks in advance!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Binho, post: 5761238, member: 6674967"] Hi everyone. I was making a gestalt build and encountered some doubts, especially about prestige classes. This three points are the main issue: 1- Prestige class I couldn't understand the form that PrCs influence the saves and attack bonus. I know that I can't fuse two PrCs so I would apreciate some exemple: Level 1: Monk/Sorcerer»Base Attack +0, Fort+2,Ref+2,Will+2 Level 2: Monk/Sorcerer»Base Attack +1, Fort+3,Ref+3,Will+3 Level 3: Monk/Sorcerer»Base Attack +2, Fort+3,Ref+3,Will+3 Level 4: Monk/Sorcerer»Base Attack +3, Fort+4,Ref+4,Will+4 Level 5: Monk/Sorcerer»Base Attack +3, Fort+4,Ref+4,Will+4 Level 6: Monk/Sorcerer»Base Attack +4, Fort+5,Ref+5,Will+5 Level 7: Sorcerer7/Swiftblade1» Base Attack +5, ... *HERE COMES THE DOUBT» ???? Level 8: Sorcerer8/Cloistered Cleric1»*HERE COMES ANOTHER DOUBT The sorcerer lv 7 gains +0 in all saves and Swiftblade 1 gains Fort +0, Ref+2, Will+2. That's the right interpretation? Or the correct interpretation would be: sorcerer Lv7 has Fort+2, Ref+2, Will+5 that is better than the saves from Swiftblade, so no saves would be affected for a level up 6-7 The second * is for a doubt about Base Attack Bonus: both sorcerer and cloistered cleric have weak BAB, but if I take an even-level of sorcerer I get +1 of BAB? 2-Multiclass penalty The rules don't mention if the rules of XP penalty for multiclassing are mantained. It's still applied to gestalt? If so, how would that work? 3-Combo Feats I know that prestige classes that combine two or more classes are not allowed, but, by RAW, feats like Ascetic Mage are still allowed. That is a necessary feat to reduce MAD problems. Let's say the DM allowed this feat, how would it work in a gestalt build like sorcerer 10/Cloistered cleric 1//monk 6/Fighter 2/Paladin3? It would have an unarmed damage of a monk lv6 (equal monk class lv), lv10 (equal sorc class lv), lv11 (equal to monk+sorc, limited to HD) or lv16(everybody goes wild!!!)? I would really apreciate if someone shows a complete build gestalt showing saves, BAB and multiclass PrC. Or maybe some site that explain this deeply. Thanks in advance! [/QUOTE]
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