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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Viktyr Gehrig" data-source="post: 2822283" data-attributes="member: 9249">I really haven't seen any Monstrous Humanoid whose MH levels qualify. Few skill points, limited saves, 3/4 BAB. Compare that to Outsiders which get +1 BAB, three good saves, and eight skill points.Unlimited detect thoughts and alter self is pretty solid. They're Doppleganger-plus and Outsider HD are better than MH (Shapechanger). The only advantage I see Doppleganger having over the Succubus is that I give all Outsiders Cleric as Favored.Succubi are also qualified for Blackguard out-of-the-box, which takes beautiful advantage of their +16 Charisma. Three levels of Rogue/Hexblade first-- unless they got those levels with their Outsider HD-- and they're immune to most sources of damage that don't require the attacker to be within Divine Might range.</blockquote>