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<blockquote data-quote="Zelc" data-source="post: 4189649" data-attributes="member: 40496"><p>Well, the two more broken combinations are Cleric 20//Druid 20, and Monk 1/Cleric 19//Druid 20. Wizard 20//Psion 20 is also extremely strong.</p><p></p><p>If you want to make a gish, Kineticist 20 on one side is extremely strong because of 2 powers: Control Body (Kineticist 4) + Solicit Psicrystal (Psion 3). If you use Control Body on yourself and manifest Solicit Psicrystal on it, you get a full round of physical actions as well as a full round of mental actions every round. Plus, your attacks, damage, and AC now use your Int bonus instead of Str or Dex, so you get single attribute dependency out of the deal. This power combination gets around two of the biggest limiters on a gestalt character's power: actions and multiple attribute dependency.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure what the best full BAB class to pair with Kineticist 20 is. Barbarian is out because you can't manifest stuff while raging. You also can't really take much advantage of what the Paladin grants you. So that leaves the Fighter and the Ranger. Fighter 20 is probably the best choice here, although the feats in the PHB leave much to be desired. Ranger 20 is the better choice if you want to shoot arrows or TWF. Normally, classes like the Slayer/Illithid Slayer are banned in Gestalt since it's a dual-progression class. If you can convince your DM to let you take it on one side if you remove the manifesting progression (so turning it into a full BAB only PrC), you could do Fighter 10/Slayer 10//Kineticist 20.</p><p></p><p>By the way, if you're willing to wait till level 9 instead of level 7 to get this combo, you don't have to be a Kineticist.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I suppose Druid 20//Monk 1/Rogue 19 also deserves a mention if you like doing lots of damage with Sneak Attack.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zelc, post: 4189649, member: 40496"] Well, the two more broken combinations are Cleric 20//Druid 20, and Monk 1/Cleric 19//Druid 20. Wizard 20//Psion 20 is also extremely strong. If you want to make a gish, Kineticist 20 on one side is extremely strong because of 2 powers: Control Body (Kineticist 4) + Solicit Psicrystal (Psion 3). If you use Control Body on yourself and manifest Solicit Psicrystal on it, you get a full round of physical actions as well as a full round of mental actions every round. Plus, your attacks, damage, and AC now use your Int bonus instead of Str or Dex, so you get single attribute dependency out of the deal. This power combination gets around two of the biggest limiters on a gestalt character's power: actions and multiple attribute dependency. I'm not sure what the best full BAB class to pair with Kineticist 20 is. Barbarian is out because you can't manifest stuff while raging. You also can't really take much advantage of what the Paladin grants you. So that leaves the Fighter and the Ranger. Fighter 20 is probably the best choice here, although the feats in the PHB leave much to be desired. Ranger 20 is the better choice if you want to shoot arrows or TWF. Normally, classes like the Slayer/Illithid Slayer are banned in Gestalt since it's a dual-progression class. If you can convince your DM to let you take it on one side if you remove the manifesting progression (so turning it into a full BAB only PrC), you could do Fighter 10/Slayer 10//Kineticist 20. By the way, if you're willing to wait till level 9 instead of level 7 to get this combo, you don't have to be a Kineticist. I suppose Druid 20//Monk 1/Rogue 19 also deserves a mention if you like doing lots of damage with Sneak Attack. [/QUOTE]
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