Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Geek Talk & Media
Get it while it's up! A boatload of SW:Episode 3 stills *Much Spoilage Ensues*
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="The Serge" data-source="post: 2068581" data-attributes="member: 4049"><p>While Lucas probably did have an overarching idea of where he wanted the story to go, he has never done the best job of path to reach his destination (aside from ANH). The problem with Lucas is that he fancies himself as a writer and he's not. He's an excellent conceptualist. He has <em>great</em> ideas and vision. However, he can't direct, he can't write, and I wonder how well he understands human motivation. This is why the dialogue in these films have been so pathetic, the acting stilted, and the story meandering. </p><p></p><p>I'm convinced that one of the reasons TESB is considered the best of the trilogy (and is the best IMO) is because after Lucas created the basic story line, others came in and directed and revised the story. More drama, more human motivation, more cohesive story... We lose a lot of this by the time we get to RotJ in which Lucas retook more direct control. We're introduced to Ewoks, the acting deteriorates, the story line doesn't have the same kind of emotional impact (aside from the final confrontation between Vader and Luke... and even that's somewhat wanting) and we essentially have a retread of the first film (not much originality). This trend continued and worsened in the prequels because Lucas hadn't directed in <em>years</em>. </p><p></p><p>Also, Lucas himself has stated that he prefers to have a "fluid" script. He doesn't really have a finished script before filming as he likes to make changes as time progresses. In the hands of a more competent storyteller and dialogue writer, this may work; for Lucas, not so much. This is why the prequels, while having some great moments, are often stilted with poor performances (considering the work I've seen from Portman and McGregor in other films, it's not them but Lucas who's to blame for some of the acting) and horrific dialogue (the whole scene with Anakin and Padme when she's in the black dominatrix outfit was painful to watch in theatres. Thank god for DVD forward buttons).</p><p></p><p>Lucas has great ideas and probably also has great moments in mind. Thus, there are certain jewels in his films. But, that's it. He should have accepted more collaboration a long time ago for these prequels.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Serge, post: 2068581, member: 4049"] While Lucas probably did have an overarching idea of where he wanted the story to go, he has never done the best job of path to reach his destination (aside from ANH). The problem with Lucas is that he fancies himself as a writer and he's not. He's an excellent conceptualist. He has [i]great[/i] ideas and vision. However, he can't direct, he can't write, and I wonder how well he understands human motivation. This is why the dialogue in these films have been so pathetic, the acting stilted, and the story meandering. I'm convinced that one of the reasons TESB is considered the best of the trilogy (and is the best IMO) is because after Lucas created the basic story line, others came in and directed and revised the story. More drama, more human motivation, more cohesive story... We lose a lot of this by the time we get to RotJ in which Lucas retook more direct control. We're introduced to Ewoks, the acting deteriorates, the story line doesn't have the same kind of emotional impact (aside from the final confrontation between Vader and Luke... and even that's somewhat wanting) and we essentially have a retread of the first film (not much originality). This trend continued and worsened in the prequels because Lucas hadn't directed in [i]years[/i]. Also, Lucas himself has stated that he prefers to have a "fluid" script. He doesn't really have a finished script before filming as he likes to make changes as time progresses. In the hands of a more competent storyteller and dialogue writer, this may work; for Lucas, not so much. This is why the prequels, while having some great moments, are often stilted with poor performances (considering the work I've seen from Portman and McGregor in other films, it's not them but Lucas who's to blame for some of the acting) and horrific dialogue (the whole scene with Anakin and Padme when she's in the black dominatrix outfit was painful to watch in theatres. Thank god for DVD forward buttons). Lucas has great ideas and probably also has great moments in mind. Thus, there are certain jewels in his films. But, that's it. He should have accepted more collaboration a long time ago for these prequels. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Geek Talk & Media
Get it while it's up! A boatload of SW:Episode 3 stills *Much Spoilage Ensues*
Top