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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 3157413" data-attributes="member: 141">mirivor, the grounds for saying that break enchantment will work is in the description of break enchantment; it says it will reverse instantaneous fifth level enchantments.  If this isn't referring to feeblemind, what *is* it referring to?If there is a line in the Climb description that I've been overlooking that allows you to make a climb check when an attack roll is called for, then you can do it.  If your 1st level character possesses a feat or magic item that allows you to roll 5d8 for your cure light wounds, then you can.  And so on for the rest of your examples.The reason we are saying that break enchantment works is not just because feeblemind doesn't rule it out, but because the text of break enchantment says it works and the feeblemind spell doesn't mention break enchantment even by description.The case would be different if there were words that said that feeblemind could *only* be removed by those spells.  Or it couldn't be removed *except* by those spells.  But what the description does is effectively add "can reverse the effect of feeblemind" to a short list of spells.  But it doesn't have to include break enchantment in that list because break enchantment already has the equivalent text.  Just read the part where it says it can reverse instantaneous fifth level enchantments.When people say that "the text of feeblemind doesn't rule this out" the fact that break enchantment has text that will apply is an unstated, but obvious, part of their position.</blockquote>

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