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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 3160432" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>Sure, all instanteneous enchantments, transmutations or curses can get removed with the spell, as long as no other rule prevents this in a specific case.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I wouldn't even call that an interpretation, it's what the spell says, as long as we assume, that there is no error, which seems like a reasonable approach, as long as it works, and it does here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct, and that's exactly how I think it is.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course. But the specific nature of the <em>Flesh to Stone</em> example gives some additional hints towards the intention.</p><p></p><p>And really, while <em>Dispel Magic</em> is of no use against instantaneous effects, which in a colloquial fashion can certainly be described as 'cannot be dispelled', it isn't quite the same as actual 'cannot be dispelled' as a rule (as in <em>Bestow Curse</em>), It's just that there is no target for a dispel attempt. It also doesn't really say, that instanteneous effects cannot be dispelled in the magic overview, it only says, that permanent effects are vulnerable to dispelling, because there is still active magic around.</p><p></p><p>'Cannot be dispelled' is a stronger term than that, it is meant as something, that actively prevents dispelling (like the 'cannot be dispelled' text in <em>Bestow Curse</em>). The example makes this clear. The rule text alone is ambiguous, so the example is necessary to actually understand in what direction it is meant to go.</p><p></p><p>And really, saying the examples are all wrong, just because they don't fit into your picture, is just cheap! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>(no offense meant <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />)</p><p></p><p>The examples work perfectly fine within the context of the rules, and they do not contradict any rules. It just doesn't work the way you think it should work. That's all. You certainly realize that, since otherwise you wouldn't claim, that the examples <em>must</em> be all wrong. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Bye</p><p>Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 3160432, member: 478"] Sure, all instanteneous enchantments, transmutations or curses can get removed with the spell, as long as no other rule prevents this in a specific case. I wouldn't even call that an interpretation, it's what the spell says, as long as we assume, that there is no error, which seems like a reasonable approach, as long as it works, and it does here. Correct, and that's exactly how I think it is. Of course. But the specific nature of the [i]Flesh to Stone[/i] example gives some additional hints towards the intention. And really, while [i]Dispel Magic[/i] is of no use against instantaneous effects, which in a colloquial fashion can certainly be described as 'cannot be dispelled', it isn't quite the same as actual 'cannot be dispelled' as a rule (as in [i]Bestow Curse[/i]), It's just that there is no target for a dispel attempt. It also doesn't really say, that instanteneous effects cannot be dispelled in the magic overview, it only says, that permanent effects are vulnerable to dispelling, because there is still active magic around. 'Cannot be dispelled' is a stronger term than that, it is meant as something, that actively prevents dispelling (like the 'cannot be dispelled' text in [i]Bestow Curse[/i]). The example makes this clear. The rule text alone is ambiguous, so the example is necessary to actually understand in what direction it is meant to go. And really, saying the examples are all wrong, just because they don't fit into your picture, is just cheap! :p (no offense meant :D) The examples work perfectly fine within the context of the rules, and they do not contradict any rules. It just doesn't work the way you think it should work. That's all. You certainly realize that, since otherwise you wouldn't claim, that the examples [i]must[/i] be all wrong. ;) Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
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