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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 3161134" data-attributes="member: 3929"><p>When you cast <em>Mass Heal</em>, you cast <em>Heal</em> on multiple different targets; someone <em>Feebleminded</em> will be targeted by a <em>Heal</em> effect. It's the same spell effect. Similarly, when you cast <em>Mass Cure Light Wounds</em>, each individual target is targeted by a <em>Cure Light Wounds</em> effect.</p><p></p><p><em>Limited Wish</em> and <em>Wish</em> do not have that kind of relationship; they have much different effects than simply an increased number of targets. They are different spells in a way that <em>Heal</em> and <em>Mass Heal</em> are not.</p><p></p><p>So the presence of both <em>Wish</em> and <em>Limited Wish</em> on the list of spells that cure <em>Feeblemind</em> and the lack of <em>Mass Heal</em> does absolutely nothing to poke any kind of hole in the exclusivity of the list, nor does it disallow <em>Mass Heal</em> from curing the <em>Feeblemind</em> condition.</p><p></p><p></p><p>1. The list <em>is</em> complete.</p><p></p><p>2. Where does this claim come from? Of course a list is needed when you restrict the remedies for a spell; if the list excludes those not on the list (as <em>Feeblemind</em> does), you need the list to know which spells work; if the list is open-ended (as the list in <em>Bestow Curse</em>), then the list provides spells we can look at for characteristics to determine if other spells will remedy the effects.</p><p></p><p>So no, there is no problem with <em>Feeblemind</em>'s exclusivity, and <em><u>as written</u> Break Enchantment does not work.</em></p><p></p><p>What intent, hindsight, or revisions might produce I won't speculate on. But that's how it's written.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Felix, post: 3161134, member: 3929"] When you cast [i]Mass Heal[/i], you cast [i]Heal[/i] on multiple different targets; someone [i]Feebleminded[/i] will be targeted by a [i]Heal[/i] effect. It's the same spell effect. Similarly, when you cast [i]Mass Cure Light Wounds[/i], each individual target is targeted by a [i]Cure Light Wounds[/i] effect. [i]Limited Wish[/i] and [i]Wish[/i] do not have that kind of relationship; they have much different effects than simply an increased number of targets. They are different spells in a way that [i]Heal[/i] and [i]Mass Heal[/i] are not. So the presence of both [i]Wish[/i] and [i]Limited Wish[/i] on the list of spells that cure [i]Feeblemind[/i] and the lack of [i]Mass Heal[/i] does absolutely nothing to poke any kind of hole in the exclusivity of the list, nor does it disallow [i]Mass Heal[/i] from curing the [i]Feeblemind[/i] condition. 1. The list [i]is[/i] complete. 2. Where does this claim come from? Of course a list is needed when you restrict the remedies for a spell; if the list excludes those not on the list (as [i]Feeblemind[/i] does), you need the list to know which spells work; if the list is open-ended (as the list in [i]Bestow Curse[/i]), then the list provides spells we can look at for characteristics to determine if other spells will remedy the effects. So no, there is no problem with [i]Feeblemind[/i]'s exclusivity, and [i][u]as written[/u] Break Enchantment does not work.[/i] What intent, hindsight, or revisions might produce I won't speculate on. But that's how it's written. [/QUOTE]
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