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<blockquote data-quote="Cedric" data-source="post: 3163859" data-attributes="member: 2044">Using the word &quot;until&quot; applies intended exclusivity to a situation, not rigid exclusivity. Rigid exclusivity is reserved for words like &quot;any&quot;, &quot;always,&quot; &quot;never,&quot; and the like (when used to define exclusions of course). However, &quot;until,&quot; when used to establish exclusivity, is really being applied to the intent of the author. You intend for the listed condition to change only when a certain set of circumstances are met. There are other things that can act to change those circumstances, but not within the letter of your intent. Back to one of our cookie examples. Telling my daughter she may not have a cookie until her room is clean. That does NOTHING to keep her from stealing a cookie when my eyes are averted. However, it does define the conditions I &quot;intend&quot; to be satisfied in order to receive a cookie. When the author uses &quot;until&quot; in the description of feeblemind. The author is clearly and unambiguously defining a set of conditions that the author intends to be met before the effects of feeblemind are cured. Had the author intended Break Enchantment to function, it should have been listed along with the others, since they are from the same book. If Break Enchantment had been released in PHB2, I would lend merit to your argument, and might agree with you. However, since there is an exclusive intended list of spells from the PHB which can cure the effect, any PHB spell would have to be ON that list to be a valid cure.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cedric, post: 3163859, member: 2044"] Using the word "until" applies intended exclusivity to a situation, not rigid exclusivity. Rigid exclusivity is reserved for words like "any", "always," "never," and the like (when used to define exclusions of course). However, "until," when used to establish exclusivity, is really being applied to the intent of the author. You intend for the listed condition to change only when a certain set of circumstances are met. There are other things that can act to change those circumstances, but not within the letter of your intent. Back to one of our cookie examples. Telling my daughter she may not have a cookie until her room is clean. That does NOTHING to keep her from stealing a cookie when my eyes are averted. However, it does define the conditions I "intend" to be satisfied in order to receive a cookie. When the author uses "until" in the description of feeblemind. The author is clearly and unambiguously defining a set of conditions that the author intends to be met before the effects of feeblemind are cured. Had the author intended Break Enchantment to function, it should have been listed along with the others, since they are from the same book. If Break Enchantment had been released in PHB2, I would lend merit to your argument, and might agree with you. However, since there is an exclusive intended list of spells from the PHB which can cure the effect, any PHB spell would have to be ON that list to be a valid cure. [/QUOTE]

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