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Get rid of the half-races, except halflings ;o)
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<blockquote data-quote="mach1.9pants" data-source="post: 3848838" data-attributes="member: 55946"><p>Errm am I wrong but isn't a teifling just a half (or at least <em>part</em>)-infernal human? All the 'just interbreeding with humans of elves and orcs' rubbish pales into insignificance when you consider that infernals (or whatever bad outsiders are called, I can't remember) only interbreed with humans? That is ridiculous, a teifling should 100% be a template or feat that can be added/taken by any humanoid. I would prefer the half races to be a sidebar (from your poll) but at least you can have a slight bit of logic saying 'physiologically only humans can interbreed with orcs and elves'; it doesn't work/make sense with outsiders who take human form or whatever they do to reproduce with humans- it should work with other races as well. Every argument against half human races applies to planetouched <strong>even moreso</strong>:Get rid of aasimar, tieflings and genasai as distinct races, make em a template!</p><p>If, however, teiflings in 4E are not just the result of human dalliance with demons and devils (2 different things, one same offspring?- more rubbish logic) but a race with a story of their own, fine by me (I'll house rule it that way anyway <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> )</p><p></p><p>I second that! It shouldn't be hard to divide the current racial attributes up into racial (darkvision) and cultural (proficiency with waraxe) in which the racial bits are equal for all the races and so are the cultures... alluded to in 3E PHB but should be implemented throughtout as standard with notes in the DMG on how to ceate your own cultural traits.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mach1.9pants, post: 3848838, member: 55946"] Errm am I wrong but isn't a teifling just a half (or at least [i]part[/i])-infernal human? All the 'just interbreeding with humans of elves and orcs' rubbish pales into insignificance when you consider that infernals (or whatever bad outsiders are called, I can't remember) only interbreed with humans? That is ridiculous, a teifling should 100% be a template or feat that can be added/taken by any humanoid. I would prefer the half races to be a sidebar (from your poll) but at least you can have a slight bit of logic saying 'physiologically only humans can interbreed with orcs and elves'; it doesn't work/make sense with outsiders who take human form or whatever they do to reproduce with humans- it should work with other races as well. Every argument against half human races applies to planetouched [b]even moreso[/b]:Get rid of aasimar, tieflings and genasai as distinct races, make em a template! If, however, teiflings in 4E are not just the result of human dalliance with demons and devils (2 different things, one same offspring?- more rubbish logic) but a race with a story of their own, fine by me (I'll house rule it that way anyway ;) ) I second that! It shouldn't be hard to divide the current racial attributes up into racial (darkvision) and cultural (proficiency with waraxe) in which the racial bits are equal for all the races and so are the cultures... alluded to in 3E PHB but should be implemented throughtout as standard with notes in the DMG on how to ceate your own cultural traits. [/QUOTE]
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