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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Meatboy" data-source="post: 5273837" data-attributes="member: 40857">OK, so here is one that started this whole idea for me and I am sure that people are going to jump on me and say "NO it was awesome!!!!111!1" but just bear with me.I feel that Starwars ep 1-3 were not good, and anytime I see them they seem to get worse. But I want to love them I am a big fan of the originals and of starwars games especially KOTOR and the jedi knight/darkforces series. So I want the story of Darth Vader's rise, or fall depending on your view point, to have been amazing. So let's talk about what I think could have been done to make them the movies they deserved to be.How it should have been...1. A better backdrop/setting  The original 3 films were set against the war between the Empire and the Rebellion. In this setting of civil strife the heroes really have a chance to shine and it sets up nicely all the reasons why they need to do heroic things. Although they get into a more interesting war between the Republic/separatists later at the beginning of Ep 1 there is a relatively stable galactic republic, which is kind of boring and leads to plot devices like, the taxation of intergalactic trade routes...   Instead lets take a page out of ancient Rome and set the republic up as a failed decadent regime where senators unfairly usurp the taxes of the people to live debauched lives of luxury. All the while allowing crime syndicates and petty warlords terrorize the Outer Rim. The Jedis are then spread thin trying to maintain peace and order and just generally holding the crumbling republic together.   There! now we have a place where heroes can be heroes and someone like Anikan Skywalker and Palpatine can leverage heavy handed tactics (like building massive armies) to create the oppressive Empire  all in the name of safety and stability. 2. Theme  For me the original trilogy had a very strong central theme of "Self sacrifice brings redemption" and those movies are rife with examples of that. Like Han not paying off his debt to Jabba the Hut, and so continuing to be a hunted man, but coming back to aid Luke in destroying the Deathstar. All the way to the final scenes where Luke refuses to fight back and in doing so rekindles the kindness and love in his father's heart who goes on to save the day and becomes a hero, again.   Now I felt that ep1-3 really lacked anything to tie them together but I think it could have been a theme of "Arrogance and Pride ultimately bring defeat". With this in mind we make Anakin powerful, they talk about it the movies A LOT, but never really see him being a force to be reckoned with. Also we make the Jedis arrogant. Not all of them but enough so that we really get a feeling of a Holier than Thou from them. With this arrogance they feel they can change their fate and "control" the one who will bring balance to the force.   With a powerful Anakin being somewhat opposed/controlled by a Jedi council who thinks the can do no wrong we now have a basis for why Anakin would turn against them. Not as a spur of the moment thing but as a long pent up ill will leading him to darkness.3. A real protagonist  Again with mention to the original trilogy in which Luke Skywalker was the undisputed protagonist, with most everything in the movies revolving around his actions and decisions. In the new trilogy it tries to much to recreate the group dynamic that Luke, Han and Liea had with Ani, Obiwan and Padme but never really gives us a sense of a strong protagonist.   I surmise that Anakin should have been the protagonist throughout the films and the focus should have been more on him and his relationships with Obiwan and Padme. This would have made us care more about the characters and could have helped Anakin be seen more as a tragic figure.There are more ways I think these films could and should have been better but these are just my ideas of how they should have been.I can't be alone in these experiences so please share!</blockquote>

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