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<blockquote data-quote="fba827" data-source="post: 5275388" data-attributes="member: 807"><p>the obvious disclaimer that this is all personal opinion. it's possible that no one else agrees with me which is fine. just sharing since the OP asked for opinions. you'll notice a common theme in my responses is that movies with a weak story/writing/characters, i value that over special effects, etc.</p><p></p><p>avatar the last airbender - i think it ended up focusing too much on trying to be gimmick-y (aka 3d and to some extended trying to rely on visual special effects to carry it, but it lost lots of the character and subtle story that made the cartoon so great</p><p></p><p>x3 - suffered from too many characters and lack of well written story. many of them were added just for the sake of adding them even though they didn't really add much to the story itself other than the obligatory scene that was no doubt written in just to justify their presence. I also really hate it when xmen movies/shows/etc give <u>so much</u> focus on wolverine above and beyond all other xmen because he bores me, but i realize he appeals to the target audience so i won't say more about my annoyance with the raging cajun.</p><p></p><p>indiana jones and the crystal skulls. just no. and shame on the them. that's all i'll say about that.</p><p></p><p>transformers 2. loss of focus on story and relied on special effects. when all the previews and interviews leading up to it had all the actors talking about "this is much more <em>explosive</em> than the first one" and no one really mentioning story development, i could kind of see where it was going already...</p><p></p><p>most sequels that are made for the sake of being made but end up stretching the story beyond what made the original/previous one good. (aka Weekend at Bernies 2 - really? it had to happen again? Lion King 2, Little Mermaid 2, etc - i would have enjoyed these movies as separate movies. But as sequels they needed to take original characters out of the previously seen satisfying conclusions and then put them in action again and then give them a new conclusion. but the second conclusion is far less satisfying than the first.)</p><p></p><p>Star Trek Insurrection, Generations, and Nemesis. Some just had a weak story that couldn't carry a whole movie (seeming instead like a tv episode script that was extended). Others just didn't have good scenes for some cast that was marginalized - essentially, it had too much cast it needed to focus on, thus failing to focus on a few of them</p><p></p><p>i'm sure there is more if I thought about it longer but i'll stop there <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fba827, post: 5275388, member: 807"] the obvious disclaimer that this is all personal opinion. it's possible that no one else agrees with me which is fine. just sharing since the OP asked for opinions. you'll notice a common theme in my responses is that movies with a weak story/writing/characters, i value that over special effects, etc. avatar the last airbender - i think it ended up focusing too much on trying to be gimmick-y (aka 3d and to some extended trying to rely on visual special effects to carry it, but it lost lots of the character and subtle story that made the cartoon so great x3 - suffered from too many characters and lack of well written story. many of them were added just for the sake of adding them even though they didn't really add much to the story itself other than the obligatory scene that was no doubt written in just to justify their presence. I also really hate it when xmen movies/shows/etc give [u]so much[/u] focus on wolverine above and beyond all other xmen because he bores me, but i realize he appeals to the target audience so i won't say more about my annoyance with the raging cajun. indiana jones and the crystal skulls. just no. and shame on the them. that's all i'll say about that. transformers 2. loss of focus on story and relied on special effects. when all the previews and interviews leading up to it had all the actors talking about "this is much more [i]explosive[/i] than the first one" and no one really mentioning story development, i could kind of see where it was going already... most sequels that are made for the sake of being made but end up stretching the story beyond what made the original/previous one good. (aka Weekend at Bernies 2 - really? it had to happen again? Lion King 2, Little Mermaid 2, etc - i would have enjoyed these movies as separate movies. But as sequels they needed to take original characters out of the previously seen satisfying conclusions and then put them in action again and then give them a new conclusion. but the second conclusion is far less satisfying than the first.) Star Trek Insurrection, Generations, and Nemesis. Some just had a weak story that couldn't carry a whole movie (seeming instead like a tv episode script that was extended). Others just didn't have good scenes for some cast that was marginalized - essentially, it had too much cast it needed to focus on, thus failing to focus on a few of them i'm sure there is more if I thought about it longer but i'll stop there :) [/QUOTE]
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