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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5564196" data-attributes="member: 6669384">Well, my Bard has a Str of 9 (was 8, but got a +1 Inherent as a reward.&nbsp; Total waste.)&nbsp; His Dex is 14, so he can Weapon Finesse all he wants and it still isn't going to impress anyone.&nbsp; Wis is 10, Con is 12, Int is 16 and Cha is 21 (+2 item).He just made 7th level.He's not going to be much of a combatant, and Bardic spell selection is anything but impressive when it comes to direct damage dealing.&nbsp; And I knew that when I designed the character.He rocks in the RP situations though.&nbsp; The Dm has pretty much given up on challenging him in Diplomacy face offs.&nbsp; He's just not ready to adjudicate situations where I'm rolling in the 30s and he's barely in the teens.&nbsp; His Perform checks just hit +19, with the addition of the feat, and I can pump that by another 4 when I prep for the event.&nbsp; And I'm more of a theatric type role player in any case, which makes it fun for me but hard on him.Still, my first love as a class is still Wizard, and I still find myself itching for the ol' lightning bolt when the situation comes up.&nbsp; But rounds I spend in melee or trying to cast the very few offensive spells a Bard has (and they do offend more than injure) are rounds that I'm not singing songs, adding buffs, distracting opponents or giving general support.&nbsp; Which means that I'm not doing my job, I'm wasting time trying to do someone else's.&nbsp; And that gets PCs killed.So I really need to get my head out of quarterback or middle-linebacker mindset, and more into being the cheerleader the character's supposed to be.&nbsp; Adding offensive spell enhancing feats to this Bard is like trying to turbocharge a moped.&nbsp; A colorful thought, but ultimately futile.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 5564196, member: 6669384"] Well, my Bard has a Str of 9 (was 8, but got a +1 Inherent as a reward. Total waste.) His Dex is 14, so he can Weapon Finesse all he wants and it still isn't going to impress anyone. Wis is 10, Con is 12, Int is 16 and Cha is 21 (+2 item). He just made 7th level. He's not going to be much of a combatant, and Bardic spell selection is anything but impressive when it comes to direct damage dealing. And I knew that when I designed the character. He rocks in the RP situations though. The Dm has pretty much given up on challenging him in Diplomacy face offs. He's just not ready to adjudicate situations where I'm rolling in the 30s and he's barely in the teens. His Perform checks just hit +19, with the addition of the feat, and I can pump that by another 4 when I prep for the event. And I'm more of a theatric type role player in any case, which makes it fun for me but hard on him. Still, my first love as a class is still Wizard, and I still find myself itching for the ol' lightning bolt when the situation comes up. But rounds I spend in melee or trying to cast the very few offensive spells a Bard has (and they do offend more than injure) are rounds that I'm not singing songs, adding buffs, distracting opponents or giving general support. Which means that I'm not doing my job, I'm wasting time trying to do someone else's. And that gets PCs killed. So I really need to get my head out of quarterback or middle-linebacker mindset, and more into being the cheerleader the character's supposed to be. Adding offensive spell enhancing feats to this Bard is like trying to turbocharge a moped. A colorful thought, but ultimately futile. [/QUOTE]

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