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<blockquote data-quote="nightraven" data-source="post: 4852671" data-attributes="member: 84088"><p>Thats just it Maggan, the publishers (and their employees) so far mentioned that are poopooing OSRIC 1. have no specific reasons (just "its too risky") and 2. have already established brands in direct competition with OSRIC. Its very likely their objections are based on scaring others from using it to limit competition (not from some real fear of being sued). The five or six established "old school" publishers didn't want weeds like EXPR growing in their garden. WE are accidently helping them pull those weeds and poisening others (it appears EXPR is one such weed about to be pulled out by the roots, I hope I'm wrong). There is honestly no more chance of WOTC taking OSRIC to court than any other OGL user, so why do we as a community pick on OSRIC. </p><p> </p><p>Maggan, I understand your point. I did ask. But posters should make it clear that the legal reasons some companies bring up may be a smoke screen. Its just the honorable thing to do (mentioning both sides of the story, espl. when its so obvious established brands will loose out to a multitude of companies supporting one other then their own). </p><p> </p><p>Like I mentioned above, we have to be careful with the internet, free communication vs. spreading fear and causing real damage. A responsible poster should consider the effects of what they post and do their best to walk carefully when what they say can do real world damage to someones profits or dreams, as hokey as that may sound. Honestly, if you had to guess, would you say TLGs objection to using OSRIC has to do with legal reasons (fearing a lawsuit and having to destroy a few 100 copies of some module) or economic (fearing dozens of new OSRIC/1E AD&D publishers popping up out of thin air flooding the market with quality modules more "old school" then their d20-light C&C system (espl. now that Gygax is dead). Its a no-brainer, and the fact that guys like Umbran don't mention it (since thats just as likely the reason as any) makes one wonder if he's not anti-OSRIC (perhaps not wanting to see 1E make a comback). I don't mean to pick on Umbran, and I'm sure he's got nothing against OSRIC or 1E, but you get my point, be objective and complete if your real goal is being objective and informative. Perhaps I'm just cutting hairs, who knows. </p><p>:-(</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nightraven, post: 4852671, member: 84088"] Thats just it Maggan, the publishers (and their employees) so far mentioned that are poopooing OSRIC 1. have no specific reasons (just "its too risky") and 2. have already established brands in direct competition with OSRIC. Its very likely their objections are based on scaring others from using it to limit competition (not from some real fear of being sued). The five or six established "old school" publishers didn't want weeds like EXPR growing in their garden. WE are accidently helping them pull those weeds and poisening others (it appears EXPR is one such weed about to be pulled out by the roots, I hope I'm wrong). There is honestly no more chance of WOTC taking OSRIC to court than any other OGL user, so why do we as a community pick on OSRIC. Maggan, I understand your point. I did ask. But posters should make it clear that the legal reasons some companies bring up may be a smoke screen. Its just the honorable thing to do (mentioning both sides of the story, espl. when its so obvious established brands will loose out to a multitude of companies supporting one other then their own). Like I mentioned above, we have to be careful with the internet, free communication vs. spreading fear and causing real damage. A responsible poster should consider the effects of what they post and do their best to walk carefully when what they say can do real world damage to someones profits or dreams, as hokey as that may sound. Honestly, if you had to guess, would you say TLGs objection to using OSRIC has to do with legal reasons (fearing a lawsuit and having to destroy a few 100 copies of some module) or economic (fearing dozens of new OSRIC/1E AD&D publishers popping up out of thin air flooding the market with quality modules more "old school" then their d20-light C&C system (espl. now that Gygax is dead). Its a no-brainer, and the fact that guys like Umbran don't mention it (since thats just as likely the reason as any) makes one wonder if he's not anti-OSRIC (perhaps not wanting to see 1E make a comback). I don't mean to pick on Umbran, and I'm sure he's got nothing against OSRIC or 1E, but you get my point, be objective and complete if your real goal is being objective and informative. Perhaps I'm just cutting hairs, who knows. :-( [/QUOTE]
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