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<blockquote data-quote="JohnRTroy" data-source="post: 4853610" data-attributes="member: 2732"><p>It is not unethical or illegal for people to state an opinion based on case law and their own legal knowledge about a third party, even if they are in the industry. I suggest you read up about legal ethics and libel law. </p><p></p><p>You seem to be saying that anybody who makes a statement regarding legality of OSRIC (usually in response to a pointed question like "why don't you support OSRIC"), if they have a competitive game should STFU. I don't think that's right. Note that neither company is doing things like accusing them of illegality, they are simply stating that they think its risky. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But then there is a risk of WoTC winning and setting legal precendent that would threaten a lot of the clones.</p><p></p><p>The threat of a lawsuit is big enough to make people risk adverse. I think C&C was developed very carefully because, while Gary wasn't directly involved in its creation, he was going to release Castle Zagyg through that game system. EGG was a target before. Take a look at this lawsuit.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/copyright/cases/tsr_vs_gdw2.txt" target="_blank">http://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/copyright/cases/tsr_vs_gdw2.txt</a></p><p></p><p>Now, Dangerous Journeys was VERY different from AD&D. But look at that discovery line-list. Mr. Gygax had stated they could have probably won the case, but all the parties couldn't afford it. So they settled. A game was destroyed, GDW likely suffered from the results (which might have contributed to their eventual shutdown--not sure exactly), and even TSR accrued some debt to the lawyers. (I suspect they more or less feared EGG working for the competition--while that was unlikely to happen with the WoTC of the early 3e days, you can never trust that a company won't change).</p><p></p><p>This is the type of risk involved. Each company has to evaluate risk and make their choices. Answering questions honestly is part of that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JohnRTroy, post: 4853610, member: 2732"] It is not unethical or illegal for people to state an opinion based on case law and their own legal knowledge about a third party, even if they are in the industry. I suggest you read up about legal ethics and libel law. You seem to be saying that anybody who makes a statement regarding legality of OSRIC (usually in response to a pointed question like "why don't you support OSRIC"), if they have a competitive game should STFU. I don't think that's right. Note that neither company is doing things like accusing them of illegality, they are simply stating that they think its risky. But then there is a risk of WoTC winning and setting legal precendent that would threaten a lot of the clones. The threat of a lawsuit is big enough to make people risk adverse. I think C&C was developed very carefully because, while Gary wasn't directly involved in its creation, he was going to release Castle Zagyg through that game system. EGG was a target before. Take a look at this lawsuit. [URL="http://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/copyright/cases/tsr_vs_gdw2.txt"]http://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/copyright/cases/tsr_vs_gdw2.txt[/URL] Now, Dangerous Journeys was VERY different from AD&D. But look at that discovery line-list. Mr. Gygax had stated they could have probably won the case, but all the parties couldn't afford it. So they settled. A game was destroyed, GDW likely suffered from the results (which might have contributed to their eventual shutdown--not sure exactly), and even TSR accrued some debt to the lawyers. (I suspect they more or less feared EGG working for the competition--while that was unlikely to happen with the WoTC of the early 3e days, you can never trust that a company won't change). This is the type of risk involved. Each company has to evaluate risk and make their choices. Answering questions honestly is part of that. [/QUOTE]
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