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<blockquote data-quote="FitzTheRuke" data-source="post: 5818330" data-attributes="member: 59816">I think you are all arguing over semanticsIf &quot;taking 20&quot; is going to make most people succeed at the skill check (and who takes 20 expecting to fail) then it amounts to the exact same thing as the DM simply not asking for a roll and judging that the character can do the task at hand without bothering to calculate the DC hit by &quot;taking 20&quot;.DMs who are willing to do this don't bother with the take 20 rule.Some go as far as the same thing with taking 10.Taking 10 is NOT in the 5e rules as core, but something similar is.&nbsp; It's more like a &quot;passive skill&quot; than taking 10, though the results are basically the same.&nbsp; If your stat beats the DC by itself, then the DM doesn't need to make you roll.&nbsp; Presumably the DM CAN make you roll, but the game advises that to speed it up, you shouldn't bother.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FitzTheRuke, post: 5818330, member: 59816"] I think you are all arguing over semantics If "taking 20" is going to make most people succeed at the skill check (and who takes 20 expecting to fail) then it amounts to the exact same thing as the DM simply not asking for a roll and judging that the character can do the task at hand without bothering to calculate the DC hit by "taking 20". DMs who are willing to do this don't bother with the take 20 rule. Some go as far as the same thing with taking 10. Taking 10 is NOT in the 5e rules as core, but something similar is. It's more like a "passive skill" than taking 10, though the results are basically the same. If your stat beats the DC by itself, then the DM doesn't need to make you roll. Presumably the DM CAN make you roll, but the game advises that to speed it up, you shouldn't bother. [/QUOTE]

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