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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8519566" data-attributes="member: 6987520">There are plenty of games where damage is class, level, skill, etc. dependent. So, if you want to adopt such a system, I don't see any issue with it. A 10th level Rogue might deal the same damage with a knife as a 10th level Fighter can with a longsword. Once you get the hit, skill is a huge factor in damage IMO.However, is isn't as "realistic" as you said--and since personally I like a more "real" game (so to say), I doubt I would adopt it implicitly. But we have adopted rules which improve weapon damage as you level, a kin to a monk's martial arts damage increasing. Opponents of this have argued that greater number of attacks, improved sneak attack, etc. was meant to reflect this, but not all classes have such features.  <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging    :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /> The idea that your hit roll is not tied into your damage has never bothered me. The attack roll was meant to be binary: hit or miss (the exact interpretation has shifted in editions but that is still more or less it). The variable damage die was meant to represent how well you hit, by an increasing amount of damage. So, if you needed to roll a 13, it didn't matter if you rolled 13, 14, 15, ..., 19, or 20. But if you rolled minimum damage, your hit was hardly effective, if you roll maximum, it had greater impact naturally.The concept of the Critical Hit messed up this simple system. Suddenly, people thought the closer to 20, the better the hit, but that is just patently untrue: damage determines the strength of the hit, its "deadliness" if you will, not the d20 result.Once you understand that (whether you agree is a different issue!), the d20 roll really can be binary. As such, I have always preferred exploding dice to represent critical hits, but then you run into the issue of equal roll = more damage when the die exploded. For example, if you roll d4 and get a 4, then rolling another d4 results in a minimum of 5 damage, making a result of 4 impossible. If you adjust the exploding die to be 0 to X-1 instead of 1 to X, it works, but that is just another layer of complexity which I have never relished.Now, nothing says you can't reverse the roles (no pun intended). Make damage static, but the d20 adjusts the damage. However, such a system would probably revolve something like:For each point you beat the target's AC, you deal +1 damage. A light weapon might deal 1 point, a heavy weapon 3, and other weapons 2 before an ability modifier (if you wanted to include one).</blockquote>

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