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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 5392880">Unless I am going for ultra-realism(which I almost universally never am), I never saw the necessity for most of these things.  Certainly there are some obvious ones, rope, food, stuff that's GOING to be used.  But moreover, much of these items never see the light of day.  Why should I insist that people bring a telescope when there's an elf or something who can see just as far as relay that to the party?  oh yes, the elf might be dead, but that seems like too deliberate of a setup. At the end of the day, it becomes an excessive exercise in bookkeeping.  Did joe use his candle, did frank remember to pick up his rope?  Ad nauseam.  After multiple times needing to use them, after several stops in towns selling, buying, trading these things, it just becomes a headache. Not to mention, as you say, if all this stuff is spilled in a fight(which in most fights, it would be), then having to spend half an hour while players sit down, pick up all their stuff, tell the theif in the party to stop grabbing their goods, double-check their bags, and then turn to me and ask if I was tracking all their stuff!   If I'm going to use those non-Adventurer's Kit items, I will notify them, through the NPCs(should they bother to talk to any), that where they are headed they made need special supplies they normally wouldn't have.  Otherwise having them carry that stuff around is just a rather annoying exercise in banality.</blockquote>

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