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<blockquote data-quote="Retreater" data-source="post: 9050645" data-attributes="member: 42040">It's an ordeal, honestly. I don't think the design minds at Paizo actually considered how people would play this without automation. Let's consider just Initiative. Initiative without a VTT is honestly stupid. Each creature has its own Initiative score, which fluctuates based on delayed actions, getting knocked out during a combat, etc. Let's say I have 5 players and 6 goblins - that's ELEVEN initiative scores to track. Then I have to remember which Goblin is Goblin #1 in the order, has that goblin taken its reaction, does it have any conditions to track, etc.? What am I doing to try to get around this? Well, I have dry erase condition cards to remind people if they're Clumsy, Enfeebled, etc., and by how much. I have dry erase clothespins that I can write &quot;GOBLIN x#&quot; upon, and slide it around a track at the top of my GM screen like a shuffleboard in a meat raffle. So I'm left wondering, do I need all this stuff just to run a blasted game? Is there any way that Paizo could have made the game without all this minutiae? Why isn't there a better option out there for a fantasy RPG that is streamlined and balanced? Honestly, I don't know how I'm going to teach a group of 6 teenagers relatively new to TTPRGS how to play this 650 page rulebook. But I'll be damned if I try to DM 5e again - I'd rather quit gaming.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Retreater, post: 9050645, member: 42040"] It's an ordeal, honestly. I don't think the design minds at Paizo actually considered how people would play this without automation. Let's consider just Initiative. Initiative without a VTT is honestly [I]stupid[/I]. Each creature has its own Initiative score, which fluctuates based on delayed actions, getting knocked out during a combat, etc. Let's say I have 5 players and 6 goblins - that's [B]ELEVEN[/B] initiative scores to track. Then I have to remember which Goblin is Goblin #1 in the order, has that goblin taken its reaction, does it have any conditions to track, etc.? What am I doing to try to get around this? Well, I have dry erase condition cards to remind people if they're Clumsy, Enfeebled, etc., and by how much. I have dry erase clothespins that I can write "GOBLIN x#" upon, and slide it around a track at the top of my GM screen like a shuffleboard in a meat raffle. So I'm left wondering, do I need all this stuff just to run a blasted game? Is there any way that Paizo could have made the game without [I]all this minutiae?[/I] Why isn't there a better option out there for a fantasy RPG that is streamlined and balanced? Honestly, I don't know how I'm going to teach a group of 6 teenagers relatively new to TTPRGS how to play this 650 page rulebook. But I'll be damned if I try to DM 5e again - I'd rather quit gaming. [/QUOTE]

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