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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 3289714" data-attributes="member: 31734">"Yes' and "yes if you are combining natural and manufactured weapons." There are no other rules to obtain iterative attacks while making a full attack with natural weapons.  You can use:1. Only natural weapons (no iterative).2. Any non-natural weapons (iterative, usually manufactured but could be non-manufactured).3. Only natural weapons and manufactured weapons (iterative).  The support for this one is the rule that was already quoted I believe.What you want is option 4, which doesn't exist.  I'm asking you to provide the rules support for it.4. Natural weapons and any non-natural weapon (iterative, usually manufactured but could be non-manufactured). You cannot NOT use a manufactured weapon for those iterative attacks if you choose to use the rule that allows you to combine manufactured weapons and natural weapons.The following example is how I see it, though I am willing to be proven wrong.  Say a glabrezu attacks the PC on round one and improved grabs him (assume he chose not to use his natural weapons as secondary attacks).  They are still grappling on round 2.  In round 2, the glabrezu cannot choose to (say) pincer the PC with his other claw (-4 penalty for grappling, -2 for secondary) and also conduct 3 grapple attempts.  He could, however, either attack with one natural weapon (not a good choice most likely) or grapple 3 times.</blockquote>