Giants in the Earth discussion: Madmartigan & other Willow characters

[Glyfair]

The Jack Sparrow discussion has petered out, so now it's time to discuss the second place finisher in the poll.

How would you stat out Madmartigan & other characters from Willow (which can include the book series by Lucas and Claremont)?

Try to stick to D&D feats, classes, etc., unless a third party rule seems very appropriate.

 

[phindar]

If I recall correctly, Madmaritgan was a 20th level Fighter in the old Willow RPG that came out with the movie. Of course, it makes the end battle seem somewhat less climatic when you realize that General Kael was only 12th.

 

[Theron]

I've still got that WEG sourcebook (AD&D with the serial numbers filed off), but it's stowed in the garage somewhere right now.

 

[Glyfair]

I've still got that WEG sourcebook (AD&D with the serial numbers filed off), but it's stowed in the garage somewhere right now.

But does it work? phindar's comment suggest that it has holes.

I suggest starting from the movie (and maybe the books) and working from that.

 

[Theron]

But does it work? phindar's comment suggest that it has holes.

I suggest starting from the movie (and maybe the books) and working from that.

I'll be honest, I don't remember. It's probably been a decade since I even looked at it, and the movie was never one of my favorites to begin with.* I largely picked the book up because I worked in a bookstore and pretty much picked up everything gaming we carried.



*Maybe I'd feel different about it today, but at the time the movie came out, I was in my mid-20s and deadly serious about the things I was deadly serious about. Like fantasy and how it was constantly cheapened by frivolous humor in popular portrayals. Like I said, I was decidedly deadly serious back then. I wonder how the people around me could stand it.

 

[ColonelHardisson]

But does it work?

Not in the least. A lot of the character write-ups say things like such-and-such character is "3 levels higher" than the highest level PC, with little more than that for game stats. The only redeeming element is a really interesting backstory for Madmartigan.

 

[Darth Shoju]

The Jack Sparrow discussion has petered out, so now it's time to discuss the second place finisher in the poll.

How would you stat out Madmartigan & other characters from Willow (which can include the book series by Lucas and Claremont)?

Try to stick to D&D feats, classes, etc., unless a third party rule seems very appropriate.

I stuck to the movie as I thought the books (the Shadow War books penned by Clairemont) deviated too far from the film. I used 28-point buy for everyone but Bavmorda who got 32 points and I stuck to the core rules for simplicity. I also only listed their most likely feats and skills.


Madmartigan-Fighter 10. Chaotic Good. STR 14 DEX 17 CON 15 INT 10 WIS 8 CHA 12. Skills: Jump, Ride, Climb, Knowledge (Siege Warfare). Feats: Weapon Focus and Spec in Longsword, Two-Weapon Fighting.
Sorsha-Fighter 10. Lawful Neutral. STR 12 DEX 17 CON 14 INT 13 WIS 10 CHA 10. Skills: Ride, Knowledge (Siege Warfare). Feats: Weapon Focus and Spec in Bastard Sword, Point-blank Shot, Precise Shot.
Willow Ufgood-Commoner 3, Wizard 1. Neutral Good. STR 8 DEX 14 CON 12 INT 16 WIS 12 CHA 12. Skills: Spellcraft, Knowledge (Arcana), Concentration, Profession (Farmer), Sleight of Hand, Handle Animal. Feats: Scribe Scroll
Queen Bavmorda-Sorcerer 18. Neutral Evil. STR 6 DEX 8 CON 8 INT 19 WIS 13 CHA 21. Skills: Spellcraft, Concentration, Knowledge (Arcana). Feats: Maximize Spell, Brew Potion, Craft Wondrous Item.
Fin Raziel-Wizard 17. Lawful Good. STR 6 DEX 6 CON 8 INT 21 WIS 15 CHA 15
Skills: Spellcraft, Knowledge (Arcana), Concentration Feats: Scribe Scroll, Craft Wand, Still Spell, Quicken Spell, Extend Spell.
High Aldwin-Wizard 12. Neutral Good. STR 6 DEX 10 CON 8 INT 19 WIS 16 CHA 11
Skills: Spellcraft, Knowledge (Arcana), Concentration, Knowledge (History), Knowledge (Nature). Feats: Scribe Scroll, Brew Potion, Craft Wondrous Item
Gen. Kael-Barbarian 4, Fighter 8. Chaotic Evil. STR 17 DEX 12 CON 18 INT 12 WIS 8 CHA 8. Skills: Ride, Intimidate. Feats: Power Attack, Cleave, Endurance, Diehard, Weapon Focus and Spec in Greatsword.
Airk Thaughbaer-Fighter 9. Lawful Neutral. STR 14 DEX 12 CON 14 INT 10 WIS 10 CHA 14 Skills: Ride, Knowledge (Military Campaigning).
Meegosh-Commoner 2. Neutral. STR 8 DEX 12 CON 10 INT 8 WIS 10 CHA 10
Skills: Profession (Farmer)
Vohnkar-Fighter 2. Neutral Good. STR 12 DEX 14 CON 14 INT 10 WIS 10 CHA 10
Skills: Intimidate, Climb. Weapon Focus Spear.