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<blockquote data-quote="BlueFin" data-source="post: 8934714" data-attributes="member: 7040011">The Big Question - &quot;how are you planning to regain our trust&quot;?&nbsp; The answer to this is to stop lying to us, but he/they continue to do just that.&nbsp; This is the third interview with KB that I have either watched or read a summary of.&nbsp; His answers are total BS, and completely incongruent.&nbsp; In this interview for example he states &quot;1.2 was a significant departure from 1.1&quot; - that is a total lie.&nbsp; 1.2 was for the most part the same, but far worse because it was an attempt to have the same control, but the mechanisms for that control were more hidden - the whole document was far more insidious.&nbsp; You can actually say that 1.1 was at least an honest document in so far as it was clear in its intent.&nbsp; 1.2 was just an attempt to hide that intent.&nbsp; To further make the point, he states &quot;Saying irrevocable probably isn't good enough, cause people might not even take our word for that.&quot; - well of course not, because again, wotc was completely disingenuous in 1.2 when it tried to use the word &quot;irrevocable&quot; but change the meaning to be something that was nothing to do with what the community was asking for.The astonishing thing is their complete lack of understanding of their own community and our ability to pull apart their BS.But now it seems to be working.&nbsp; What's going to happen here is that he is going to have all these interviews, say the same thing everytime, and eventually most customers will just accept it as true simply because they have heard it repeated enough times, and I think that is what they are relying upon.&nbsp; It is a well established tactic of marketers and politicians.So it's up to you folks, whether you end up accepting what he is saying simply because he is saying it over and over again, or whether you continue to consider what he is saying critically and with a healthy dose of skepticism.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BlueFin, post: 8934714, member: 7040011"] The Big Question - "how are you planning to regain our trust"? The answer to this is to stop lying to us, but he/they continue to do just that. This is the third interview with KB that I have either watched or read a summary of. His answers are total BS, and completely incongruent. In this interview for example he states "1.2 was a significant departure from 1.1" - that is a total lie. 1.2 was for the most part the same, but far worse because it was an attempt to have the same control, but the mechanisms for that control were more hidden - the whole document was far more insidious. You can actually say that 1.1 was at least an honest document in so far as it was clear in its intent. 1.2 was just an attempt to hide that intent. To further make the point, he states "Saying irrevocable probably isn't good enough, cause people might not even take our word for that." - well of course not, because again, wotc was completely disingenuous in 1.2 when it tried to use the word "irrevocable" but change the meaning to be something that was nothing to do with what the community was asking for. The astonishing thing is their complete lack of understanding of their own community and our ability to pull apart their BS. But now it seems to be working. What's going to happen here is that he is going to have all these interviews, say the same thing everytime, and eventually most customers will just accept it as true simply because they have heard it repeated enough times, and I think that is what they are relying upon. It is a well established tactic of marketers and politicians. So it's up to you folks, whether you end up accepting what he is saying simply because he is saying it over and over again, or whether you continue to consider what he is saying critically and with a healthy dose of skepticism. [/QUOTE]

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