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<blockquote data-quote="reanjr" data-source="post: 2090035" data-attributes="member: 20740"><p>1. Currently 2 females playing.</p><p></p><p>2. 10-15% female during my gaming lifetime.</p><p></p><p>3. Women don't tend to change the style of play in my group. None of the commonly held preconception of women gamers seems to hold true (unfortunately, since I fit the stereotype of female gamer, though I am not female)</p><p></p><p>4. Women are no more drawn to story than anyone else, male or otherwise. (otherwise?)</p><p></p><p>5. Women immune to powergaming? Hahahahaha!!!...</p><p></p><p>6. I think people who did not grow up on board games and/or video games are poor at learning the rules. To a very minor extent, this might cause a bit of gender bias as videogames were, historically, a male-centric hobby until recently. But there is no causative relationship between women and rules.</p><p></p><p>7. In my experience women tend to stay more focused (unless there is a child attached her to her leg and/or other appendage/teat). This is of great benefit.</p><p></p><p>8. The industry, I believe, is male-dominated due to many realted hobbies being male-dominated (tainting the potential pool of gamers with a ridiculous number of men) and a matter of critical mass. If a man sees 10 women playing a game, he has an initial impression that the game probably wouldn't appeal to him (except as a way to meet women). Same thing goes for women.</p><p></p><p>9. Vampire (the majority of Storyteller games in my experience are Vampire) draws goths. The goth scene is gender neutral (or woman dominant if you count effeminate men as partial women). So you get a pretty even split on gender in those games. Again, no causative relationship.</p><p></p><p>10. Are there any games that revolve around beating your wife? I bet those would have a low number of female players. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Seriously, the only thing I can think of would be a hypothetical gadget-centric game where you get all these cool tools that combine in different ways. I have no experience with such a game, but I would think you'd find few women among a James Bond sort of game or possibly a realistic, non-anime Mech game that revolved around upgrading Mechs.</p><p></p><p>11. Yes, I know both women and men who can't grasp the concept of the rules. Neither of them plays games other than role-playing so they have no background in learning game theory. It should also be noted that the math skills of these people are often lacking as well. And computer skills, oftentimes. Learning gaming rules isn't about complexity, it's about a psychological paradigm of perceiving tasks. You either learn those types of things well, or you don't, and gender has little, if anything, to say about it.</p><p></p><p>12. I once played in a group that was all female (except for me). Let's just say, I'm not into role-playing sexual fantasies unless I'm LARPing. I have often played with all male gamers. Doesn't really differ from mixed groups.</p><p></p><p>13. Do I think a lot of female gamers are drawn into the hobby because their boyfriends are already playing it, or they want to get to know a boy better in the group, rather than out of personal interest? Yes. The trick is using bait and switch. I have found that gamers may seem quite attractive to the opposite sex until they are seen gaming, so this presents a wonderful opportunity. Lure women in with raw sex appeal. Only slowly does she realize that the guy that seemed so cool is really such a loser. By then, she's been playing for a couple of weeks and - with the right DM - is too invested in the story to quit now.</p><p></p><p>14. I've never seen intimate relationships between two gamers cause problems at the table. Though I have seen games ruined due to: alcoholism, cocaine addiction, heroin addiction, work scheduling, sub-par parenting (gamer-parents who bring their unruly kids), DM having extra-gaming relationshiop problems, relocation, large dogs who weren't beaten enough as puppies, X-Files, etc.</p><p></p><p>15. Women don't bring personal issues to the game table any more than men.</p><p></p><p>16. I find that quarrels are wonderfully settled by the authoritative yelling of a mother (doesn't matter who the child is, if the gamer is a mother she has "the voice").</p><p></p><p>17. I don't see any difference in approach between women and men in gaming.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reanjr, post: 2090035, member: 20740"] 1. Currently 2 females playing. 2. 10-15% female during my gaming lifetime. 3. Women don't tend to change the style of play in my group. None of the commonly held preconception of women gamers seems to hold true (unfortunately, since I fit the stereotype of female gamer, though I am not female) 4. Women are no more drawn to story than anyone else, male or otherwise. (otherwise?) 5. Women immune to powergaming? Hahahahaha!!!... 6. I think people who did not grow up on board games and/or video games are poor at learning the rules. To a very minor extent, this might cause a bit of gender bias as videogames were, historically, a male-centric hobby until recently. But there is no causative relationship between women and rules. 7. In my experience women tend to stay more focused (unless there is a child attached her to her leg and/or other appendage/teat). This is of great benefit. 8. The industry, I believe, is male-dominated due to many realted hobbies being male-dominated (tainting the potential pool of gamers with a ridiculous number of men) and a matter of critical mass. If a man sees 10 women playing a game, he has an initial impression that the game probably wouldn't appeal to him (except as a way to meet women). Same thing goes for women. 9. Vampire (the majority of Storyteller games in my experience are Vampire) draws goths. The goth scene is gender neutral (or woman dominant if you count effeminate men as partial women). So you get a pretty even split on gender in those games. Again, no causative relationship. 10. Are there any games that revolve around beating your wife? I bet those would have a low number of female players. :) Seriously, the only thing I can think of would be a hypothetical gadget-centric game where you get all these cool tools that combine in different ways. I have no experience with such a game, but I would think you'd find few women among a James Bond sort of game or possibly a realistic, non-anime Mech game that revolved around upgrading Mechs. 11. Yes, I know both women and men who can't grasp the concept of the rules. Neither of them plays games other than role-playing so they have no background in learning game theory. It should also be noted that the math skills of these people are often lacking as well. And computer skills, oftentimes. Learning gaming rules isn't about complexity, it's about a psychological paradigm of perceiving tasks. You either learn those types of things well, or you don't, and gender has little, if anything, to say about it. 12. I once played in a group that was all female (except for me). Let's just say, I'm not into role-playing sexual fantasies unless I'm LARPing. I have often played with all male gamers. Doesn't really differ from mixed groups. 13. Do I think a lot of female gamers are drawn into the hobby because their boyfriends are already playing it, or they want to get to know a boy better in the group, rather than out of personal interest? Yes. The trick is using bait and switch. I have found that gamers may seem quite attractive to the opposite sex until they are seen gaming, so this presents a wonderful opportunity. Lure women in with raw sex appeal. Only slowly does she realize that the guy that seemed so cool is really such a loser. By then, she's been playing for a couple of weeks and - with the right DM - is too invested in the story to quit now. 14. I've never seen intimate relationships between two gamers cause problems at the table. Though I have seen games ruined due to: alcoholism, cocaine addiction, heroin addiction, work scheduling, sub-par parenting (gamer-parents who bring their unruly kids), DM having extra-gaming relationshiop problems, relocation, large dogs who weren't beaten enough as puppies, X-Files, etc. 15. Women don't bring personal issues to the game table any more than men. 16. I find that quarrels are wonderfully settled by the authoritative yelling of a mother (doesn't matter who the child is, if the gamer is a mother she has "the voice"). 17. I don't see any difference in approach between women and men in gaming. [/QUOTE]
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