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<blockquote data-quote="fusangite" data-source="post: 2096924" data-attributes="member: 7240"><p>They aren't lying when they say this but they are answering the question in a misleading way. They are being asked about general patterns they can see from looking at the whole sweep of their gaming careers and they are responding with an isolated annecdote in order to avoid disclosing/examining the general pattern.I don't think "everyone" is doing any such thing. I think <em>some people</em> are answering questions in the way I just described to S'mon above. They are disclosing information consistent with their desired statistical outcome and holding back information inconsistent with it. So, your above sentence is one of the few instances in this thread of misrepresentation. The reason I'm making this generalization is that I am looking at the phrasing of people's statements -- so no, I don't think they're lying. If they were lying, I wouldn't be able to see how the statements are strategic and selective simply be examining their wording.A bunch of people with the same interests all acting based on those interests requires no collusion at all. Let me compare this to crime statistics; there is a high rate of reoffending for people released from jail. But my political views are very much opposed to "three strikes" type policies. So, when I and others who oppose these policies argue against them, we naturally, based on our own interests, tend to focus on annecdotal stories of people who have broken the pattern of reoffending, and gloss over many statistical generalizations. I don't think I'm lying when I do that. So, I'm not accusing anyone of lying; what I'm saying is that people are being asked for one kind of information and are carefully choosing their language so as to provide another. There's nothing weird, aberrant or unethical about this -- it's a phenomenon that happens every day.Whoa! When on earth did I say that? I recall saying the opposite. Crothian, the way you're expressing yourself here is really uncharacteristic of your usual level-headed and reasoned posts. What have I done to get under your skin?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fusangite, post: 2096924, member: 7240"] They aren't lying when they say this but they are answering the question in a misleading way. They are being asked about general patterns they can see from looking at the whole sweep of their gaming careers and they are responding with an isolated annecdote in order to avoid disclosing/examining the general pattern.I don't think "everyone" is doing any such thing. I think [i]some people[/i] are answering questions in the way I just described to S'mon above. They are disclosing information consistent with their desired statistical outcome and holding back information inconsistent with it. So, your above sentence is one of the few instances in this thread of misrepresentation. The reason I'm making this generalization is that I am looking at the phrasing of people's statements -- so no, I don't think they're lying. If they were lying, I wouldn't be able to see how the statements are strategic and selective simply be examining their wording.A bunch of people with the same interests all acting based on those interests requires no collusion at all. Let me compare this to crime statistics; there is a high rate of reoffending for people released from jail. But my political views are very much opposed to "three strikes" type policies. So, when I and others who oppose these policies argue against them, we naturally, based on our own interests, tend to focus on annecdotal stories of people who have broken the pattern of reoffending, and gloss over many statistical generalizations. I don't think I'm lying when I do that. So, I'm not accusing anyone of lying; what I'm saying is that people are being asked for one kind of information and are carefully choosing their language so as to provide another. There's nothing weird, aberrant or unethical about this -- it's a phenomenon that happens every day.Whoa! When on earth did I say that? I recall saying the opposite. Crothian, the way you're expressing yourself here is really uncharacteristic of your usual level-headed and reasoned posts. What have I done to get under your skin? [/QUOTE]
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