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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 5832675" data-attributes="member: 67338">OK, so what types of fighter/mages do you want to see in D&D NEXT?I am going to work my way backwards from 4e.I liked the swordmage from day 1 in the FR book. It did not in and of itself really do everything I wanted from a gish, but it was a good solid frame to work with. I used the swordmage as my base and multi into wizard (once for the arcane tower PP, and once to pp multi) a couple of times.When Bards came out I felt that the Valor's Bard was very much the feel I wanted when I wanted to play a Link like magic swordman. When the Bladesinger came out, I loved the concept, but not the excution (my own house rule doubled there daily powers)4e also added the Avenger and the Warden as Divine and Primal weapon useres that had some gish feel to them.  The warden felt great, but I could not get it to click. The Avenger on the other hand blew my mind.3e AND 3.5 both had a good multi class system. I could take 2 fighter levels then the rest wizard (or caster level Prestige classes) and be good, but It never felt right. I tried  Dusk blade and had some good luck with it (espicaly mixing in some book of 9 swords stuff). The warlock with it's spell like ability to cast eldritch blast through a sword made a nasty combatant.2e was a ton of fun and I loved the Kit Bladesinger, some of my most fun was playing one.What I want from NEXT, is a good mix of them. I want a multi class system that lets me be a fighter/Magic user out of the gate. I also want specility classes (or themes, or pparagon paths what ever) that let me dupplicate some of the above idea's.The problem is there is alot for a gish to cover. - I want to be a master spell caster with a bit of sword play (4e wiz/wiz spiral tower, or a 3e wizard 5/fighter 2/eldritch knight 4)- I want to be a kick but swordsman with some dabbler stuff in magic (4e Bard or fighter/wiz, or a 3e fighter 4/wiz3/spell sword 4)- I want to use magic to fight with my sword (4e bladesinger or swordmage, 3e duskblade)-I want to self buff and go crazy swordman- any combo of the above.</blockquote>

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