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<blockquote data-quote="Waylander the Slayer" data-source="post: 3912866" data-attributes="member: 1830">So giving up an attack to use spells is &quot;allowing someone else to have fun at your expense?&quot; OK, I guess then all classes should be fully self sufficient and be able to do everything. Oh wait, what's the point of having a party? So&nbsp; a paladin who forgoes his attack, even to his own jeapordy to lay on hands on a party member is getting shitted on?What exactly does open access to all classes mean? You state that the halfling and gnome are &quot;too similar.&quot; How so? Other than height? How is a gnome a villain or comic relief? Are they naturally written to be comedians? Are illusionists comedians? Are they naturally stated somewhere to be villains? So what exactly is a humans nitche according to you? What exactly are you basing &quot;your sub-optimal&quot; build comments on? Do you compete at the table for whose character is &quot;optimal&quot;? Maybe try to kill other party members in PvP combat? What?&nbsp; Again, how is this all &quot;having fun at the other guys expense?&quot; It sounds more like a player issue rather than anything else.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Waylander the Slayer, post: 3912866, member: 1830"] So giving up an attack to use spells is "allowing someone else to have fun at your expense?" OK, I guess then all classes should be fully self sufficient and be able to do everything. Oh wait, what's the point of having a party? So a paladin who forgoes his attack, even to his own jeapordy to lay on hands on a party member is getting shitted on? What exactly does open access to all classes mean? You state that the halfling and gnome are "too similar." How so? Other than height? How is a gnome a villain or comic relief? Are they naturally written to be comedians? Are illusionists comedians? Are they naturally stated somewhere to be villains? So what exactly is a humans nitche according to you? What exactly are you basing "your sub-optimal" build comments on? Do you compete at the table for whose character is "optimal"? Maybe try to kill other party members in PvP combat? What? Again, how is this all "having fun at the other guys expense?" It sounds more like a player issue rather than anything else. [/QUOTE]

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