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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Empirate" data-source="post: 5572400" data-attributes="member: 78958">None of the racial abilities strike me as really powerful. Nice? Yes. Powerful, game-breaking, way out there? Nah. That leaves only the racial ability score modifiers to judge by, and when I see a +4 somewhere, I get leery. As Celebrim said, you'd only be playing a Cleric, Sorcerer or Bard and not much else with these guys. So what you get is very good for you, and what you lose doesn't hurt that much.I'd compare this to a Goliath: you wouldn't want to play a Goliath that isn't focused on melee in some way. Goliaths are just plain fantastic for anything that melees. They're much less useful to play as an arcane caster or something like that, they're pigeonholed very much like this race is. Goliaths, despite being unbalanced where good class/race synergy is concerned, are only LA+1. So I'd put this race at LA+1, as well.</blockquote>