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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jmucchiello" data-source="post: 2301204" data-attributes="member: 813">All of those things (kibitzing, agonizing over tactics, stratetgizing) increase my enjoyment not decrease it. This means you and I cannot play together. It means I would chaffe under your so-called "rules which better the game". Do you know for a fact that the other players agree that there needs to be less "distraction"? I'm not saying your rules aren't going to make the game better. I'm saying they would not make it better for me and for people like me. Do you play with players like me?I also play weekly and don't see the players except at game so we tolerate OOG chitchat more than some gamers. Course, we also don't take 5 minutes to figure out what we're doing. Except when someone returns from the bathroom and needs an update, most of the time actions have been planned before the character's initiative comes up.You've never played in a softball game where if the batted ball hits someone's beer cup, the batter is out? I've seen picnic volleyball games delayed by one of the girls showing off a new piece of jewelry or something elsewhere making people laugh too hard to continue. Distractions can slow down any pasttime.People say stuff like this all the time. The irony (for me) is that D&D was created by moving a miniatures wargame into an enclosed "dungeon" environment. This isn't a value judgement, I'm just easily amused by the irony of the statement.</blockquote>