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<blockquote data-quote="sunshadow21" data-source="post: 6353061" data-attributes="member: 6667193"><p>What you call a grudge, others call filling an interest that WotC chose not to worry about any longer. I suspect that at this point, most PF players could care less about WotC one way or another. If WotC produces a system different enough to be worth paying attention to while still being familiar enough to interest them, most of them will at least look at it. It would take an extraordinary system to make them abandon the investment they have already made in PF, or whatever ever other system they might be playing currently, however, and I just don't see that being the case here; 5E might pull in some lost to the OSR crowd, but hasn't really made an effort to recapture the lost 3.x/OGL/PF crowd. The end result of PF players generally continuing to play PF has nothing to do with holding a grudge, no matter how much some pro-WotC people want to believe that's all it is. PF is a good system, 4E was a good system, 5E will be a good system; they all have strengths, weaknesses, and will appeal to different people. Neither 4E nor PF were able to knock each other out, and that situation won't change just because WotC has a new system out. It's time for people on both sides to move on and accept that it is possible for the two companies and systems to coexist.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="sunshadow21, post: 6353061, member: 6667193"] What you call a grudge, others call filling an interest that WotC chose not to worry about any longer. I suspect that at this point, most PF players could care less about WotC one way or another. If WotC produces a system different enough to be worth paying attention to while still being familiar enough to interest them, most of them will at least look at it. It would take an extraordinary system to make them abandon the investment they have already made in PF, or whatever ever other system they might be playing currently, however, and I just don't see that being the case here; 5E might pull in some lost to the OSR crowd, but hasn't really made an effort to recapture the lost 3.x/OGL/PF crowd. The end result of PF players generally continuing to play PF has nothing to do with holding a grudge, no matter how much some pro-WotC people want to believe that's all it is. PF is a good system, 4E was a good system, 5E will be a good system; they all have strengths, weaknesses, and will appeal to different people. Neither 4E nor PF were able to knock each other out, and that situation won't change just because WotC has a new system out. It's time for people on both sides to move on and accept that it is possible for the two companies and systems to coexist. [/QUOTE]

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