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<blockquote data-quote="jrowland" data-source="post: 6325962" data-attributes="member: 94389"><p>You will be able to customize the character. You could actually play against type in 4E, but at launch it certainly wasn't obvious. They updated as the game matured. In 5th you will be able to customize, but again it likely won't be obvious Probably more obvious customization than 4th but not as much out of the gate as 3rd. In this edition you can be a wizard with a greatsword and wear armor...not at 1st level, but you could build toward it (multi-classing, feats, etc). Skills are a bit toned down, but more broad. By that I mean, playing a social fighter is not only possible if you build for it, but even if you don't your fighter will do ok.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think you misread it, there were more options as material was added, but if PHB is all you saw, you had the right impression. But in 4E, you have to include PHB2, PHB3, dragon/dungeon articles, etc. The online Character builder NOW has quite a lot of options, better multi-classing (hybrids) and such to build against type.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>you'll be able to build a character from the ground up. The Basic rules will be released today and are FREE. Check it out. However, they won't include a lot of the customization you are looking for. Think of the 5th PHB as character customization rules for 5th Basic.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Previous poster clarified pretty well. If you ever seen/read the Tome of Battle: Book of Nine Swords in 3rd edition, that is more like how 4th fighters are. Another way to look at is like 3rd edition feats like "whirlwind". In 3rd, you take the feat then you can use whirlwind attack. In 4th you simply pick whirlwind attack as one of your attacks (spells as you thought they were). In neither edition is it a spell, but I can see how it looks that way in 4th.</p><p></p><p>You probably won't be able to customize characters in full 3rd edition mode with just the PHB. The DMG will be the "Hackers Guide to D&D" and detail ways to customize the game, tweak classes, etc. That will be a DM and/or table decision, so if you're a player only and looking for a DM, some character customization options will be DM/table specific (ie get DMs permissions). That said, the game is being designed with customization in mind, so you should feel happy once all the options are published, so don't look at one product and dismiss it outright. </p><p></p><p>Free Basic Rules today (simple character creation of the core 4 classes, how to play, etc)</p><p>PHB August (all classes/sub-classes, feats, and other customization options)</p><p>DMG October (how to change game rules to fit your playstyle, customize even more, etc)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jrowland, post: 6325962, member: 94389"] You will be able to customize the character. You could actually play against type in 4E, but at launch it certainly wasn't obvious. They updated as the game matured. In 5th you will be able to customize, but again it likely won't be obvious Probably more obvious customization than 4th but not as much out of the gate as 3rd. In this edition you can be a wizard with a greatsword and wear armor...not at 1st level, but you could build toward it (multi-classing, feats, etc). Skills are a bit toned down, but more broad. By that I mean, playing a social fighter is not only possible if you build for it, but even if you don't your fighter will do ok. I don't think you misread it, there were more options as material was added, but if PHB is all you saw, you had the right impression. But in 4E, you have to include PHB2, PHB3, dragon/dungeon articles, etc. The online Character builder NOW has quite a lot of options, better multi-classing (hybrids) and such to build against type. you'll be able to build a character from the ground up. The Basic rules will be released today and are FREE. Check it out. However, they won't include a lot of the customization you are looking for. Think of the 5th PHB as character customization rules for 5th Basic. Previous poster clarified pretty well. If you ever seen/read the Tome of Battle: Book of Nine Swords in 3rd edition, that is more like how 4th fighters are. Another way to look at is like 3rd edition feats like "whirlwind". In 3rd, you take the feat then you can use whirlwind attack. In 4th you simply pick whirlwind attack as one of your attacks (spells as you thought they were). In neither edition is it a spell, but I can see how it looks that way in 4th. You probably won't be able to customize characters in full 3rd edition mode with just the PHB. The DMG will be the "Hackers Guide to D&D" and detail ways to customize the game, tweak classes, etc. That will be a DM and/or table decision, so if you're a player only and looking for a DM, some character customization options will be DM/table specific (ie get DMs permissions). That said, the game is being designed with customization in mind, so you should feel happy once all the options are published, so don't look at one product and dismiss it outright. Free Basic Rules today (simple character creation of the core 4 classes, how to play, etc) PHB August (all classes/sub-classes, feats, and other customization options) DMG October (how to change game rules to fit your playstyle, customize even more, etc) [/QUOTE]
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