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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pbd" data-source="post: 1821808" data-attributes="member: 20567">I just think sacrificing realism for a minor balance issue is a poor choice.  Basically, your fighter/mage/sorcerer/cleric/paladin etc. has to walk around with a bag on thier head and cotton in their ears because it may make the rouge/bard/ranger/monk less powerful.  Oh, and by the way, you barbarians (and several other classes) just put the bag on, you can hear fine.  I know this is a fantasy game and not subjetct to all the rules of reality, but when something defies logic.  Perhaps instead of penalizing the other classses, the "observant" classes should get a bonus to this skill?Oh, and I also find it particularly strange that the fighter is one of the classes that doesn't get spot and listen, since they are usually the ones that need to react first to any danger and, in my opinion anyway, would probably be very aware of their surroundings...</blockquote>