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<blockquote data-quote="Nagol" data-source="post: 5719094" data-attributes="member: 23935"><p>The player is not telling the DM that his character knows something the DM thought he didn't; the player is changing the world as the DM knows it.</p><p></p><p>Was there a shorter route? No. Is there a shorter route now? Yes.</p><p></p><p>Should that shorter route continue to exist in the future? Yes.</p><p></p><p>Could that shorter route have had an impact on campaign play in the past? Potentially.</p><p></p><p>Who has to track these effects? The DM. Now let's suppose that the PCs are engaged in a friendly rivalry to catch the villain that the DM thought was fleeing by the most direct route.</p><p></p><p>Player 1: Do I know a better route? I roll a 21!</p><p>DM: Yes, you'll catch him at...</p><p>Player 2: Wait a minute! I know this city better than him I roll a 25!</p><p>DM: OK you know an even better route. You'll catch him at...</p><p>Player 3: Hey wait a minute! Remember 13 sessions ago when I was fleeing from the ragamuffins! I found a terrific route out of here, I rolled somewhere in the mid-30s!.</p><p></p><p>How many better routes can exist? How long do they continue to exist? Why didn't the villain traveling by the most direct route take them?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nagol, post: 5719094, member: 23935"] The player is not telling the DM that his character knows something the DM thought he didn't; the player is changing the world as the DM knows it. Was there a shorter route? No. Is there a shorter route now? Yes. Should that shorter route continue to exist in the future? Yes. Could that shorter route have had an impact on campaign play in the past? Potentially. Who has to track these effects? The DM. Now let's suppose that the PCs are engaged in a friendly rivalry to catch the villain that the DM thought was fleeing by the most direct route. Player 1: Do I know a better route? I roll a 21! DM: Yes, you'll catch him at... Player 2: Wait a minute! I know this city better than him I roll a 25! DM: OK you know an even better route. You'll catch him at... Player 3: Hey wait a minute! Remember 13 sessions ago when I was fleeing from the ragamuffins! I found a terrific route out of here, I rolled somewhere in the mid-30s!. How many better routes can exist? How long do they continue to exist? Why didn't the villain traveling by the most direct route take them? [/QUOTE]
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