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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nagol" data-source="post: 5722467" data-attributes="member: 23935">I've seen it happen -- both on the player-side and DM side, really.  It's like a Mary Sue syndrome.  There's this really bad threat, see? But it evaporates and we win!  Yay!The same happens with strong proactive players in a typical character-narrative sandbox play.  The PCs engage with elements of their choosing and those elements are typically defined by their character motivations, desires, and weaknesses.And the same exists with sandbox play -- though you can easily have the detailed map in addition! The setting, and scene framing act as constraints on character action and may require thought, planning, and inventve resource use to achieve your desired result.It shares many of the same weaknesses as sandbox play.  The multiple story arcs and soap opera feel, I consider a feature not a bug.Fundamentally, whta you are describing is a reactive environment and players that engage that environment.How players engage that environment -- whether through authorial control or through directed character action seems less important for the points you are making.I think the moral here is "good players in a game style they like are good".</blockquote>