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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 5724075" data-attributes="member: 48965">No, it's not. It's about discussing whether DM's prefer, don't prefer or fall somewhere in-between giving PC's narrative contol or not... and their reasons for that preference. I think you've missed the bigger picture of the thread.    I think it's more correct to say this is one of the questions raised in the thread and is exactly my point... why should the PC's be able to overide anything I as a DM have decided beforehand... not stuff I haven't decided but things I have set down before that the PC's wouldn't know? OaN: What guarantees that their idea willl create more fun than my own?     Yes, because friends never argue and friends don't ever fall out. If the world was a perfect place you might have a point... but then I'd ask with all this ability to work stuff out and resolve it... why are there any rules disputes... why do classes have to be balanced? Why do we need rules for combat? All this stuff could just be mutually agreed upon and resolved by everyone without objective rules to guide it?   You also short-change yourself in the ability to acquire fate points and thus the ability to exert narrative control. Why did you gloss over what the actual rules do?  And really, you're really trying to speak for all "FATE players"??  I'm sorry but your experiences aren't everyone's... and again I ask with players like these in every game why did groups have issues with the casters stepping on people's toes in D&D 3.5... they should have been able to recognize that the groups fun was the most important thing... not their own, right?  I think everyone is in agreement with it being a playstyle choice... and as I said earlier people are here to discuss the for's, the against's the why's and the how's of the different styles. I stated earlier that I prefer narrative control in games that have mechanics built to accomodate it (as did some others in the thread). I think my questions touch on fundamental issues that can arise when their are no mechanics to handle it and beyond "have great and accomodating players who will sacrifice their own gratification for that of everyone at the game..." was looking for answers to those questions that arise in games without mechanics for it from the people who tend to do it.</blockquote>

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